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<0> and repubs and dems both talked about it
<1> i agree it needs to be dealt with
<2> Private accounts are a damn good idea
<1> but we need a realistic plan
<2> if not for me at least for my offspring
<1> not smoke and mirrors
<0> but when bush brought it up again, the dems instantly melted down
<1> this is about the worst time to detour money away from SS with private accts, which btw werent so private and were highly controlled by the feds
<3> Johnson alowed the SS funds to be spent on his 'Great Society", dole to loser income areas to buy votes and stay in power, THAT is where your SS money is, it's called the national debt.
<1> one's choices would have been very limited
<3> lower income even
<3> 30 years of democrats buying votes with your money.
<1> well, its a crime that all these years congress has rolled in SS surpluses into natl budget
<1> through the loophole of converting it to treasury notes
<3> Johnson did it.....
<1> that may be so, but noone has turned off the spigot
<3> A democratic controlled senate all those years, that's where the money went.
<3> And when you tell the kids later thay have to pay 40% income tax to pay for it, thye will revolt.
<1> well, i hate paying into SS
<1> and its a primary reason I'm seeking to go back to teacdhing in public schools
<4> Hey...
<4> Is it morning... or evening?
<1> morn
<4> Thanks.
<5> if you get an email claiming you can meet ladies from thailand, do you think I'd have to go to thailand to meet them?
<6> like gary glitter did?
<5> hmm, dunno gary
<6> he got busted with some very young ladies there
<5> oops
<6> he got busted in the uk for having child porn too
<6> best to just visit local prostitutes
<2> Best to not indulge in child porn
<5> true
<6> yep
<5> I like growed wymmins
<0> in a part of Africa, they used to use Pigs to determine judgements. If you were accused of some crime or evilness, they'd burn a pig. Then they'd throw the pig in the water. I guess if it sank you were guilty, if it floated you were excused.
<6> poor little piggies
<5> heh
<6> in parts of africa they circumsize women too, crazy ****ers
<7> here I always thought they were starving in those villages in africa .. they can afford to burn pigs for judgment? Imagine if we did that. That would be one big bar-b-q :)
<5> Dopey, I think thats changing
<6> people will do crazy stuff for religious reasons
<6> religion has made earth a hellish place
<2> No people have made some parts of the earth a hellish place
<2> thats stupid to blame it on religion
<8> I don't like you, rond.
<8> You smell of fish.
<7> JegaPRIME devoiced for lameness
<9> jegaprime smells of air freshener and moth balls
<2> stupid kids tak a wonderful idea, a car radio, put huge *** loud b*** speakers in their cars and make it a hellish place for those arond them
<2> same thing
<7> rond not to mention destroy their hearing
<2> Well I did that too when i was a kid but we didn't have the amps of the speakers they dotoday so we did not bug those outside of our cars
<2> amps or the speakers
<1> i get called all sorts of barbaric names in here, and that guy gets devoiced for saying rond smells of fish! :)
<10> rond: Advocating making such behavior illegal?
<2> and I am convinced that the way they config that stuff today is more about "Look at me" than it is about listening to the music
<1> rond probably doesnt even like long john silver's ;)
<6> it's like a sonic weapon they are using against the public
<10> rofl
<1> rond, i wish cops would enforce the decibel laws
<10> Linus-: ugh
<9> Theres a distinct lack of waif teens with 3.5 minute video clips of them in different states of dress/undress then close ups of face etc
<11> You can call the cops.
<9> I say we need more
<11> I have one car that drives by my house almost everyday.
<1> you're not allowed to drive with headphones on, because you need to hear emergency vehicles
<11> I still don't know what it looks like.
<10> And the disturbance will cease as soon as the 'offender' notices a cop ~10ft away or whatever the law/ordinance states.
<1> why soul you be allowed to play music so loudly that the same result occurs?
<11> I think it is this primer izuzu truck
<6> too bad we can'y fight back with an emp burst, fry all their electronics
<1> should
<11> It is a recursive virus, the music deafens them so they have to turn it up.
<2> One night about 1:00 am a kid stopped outside our house with his speakers blowing, I sneaked up beside his car window it was open, he could not hear me...and yelled as loud and harsh as I could..."HEY !!!"
<11> He didn't hear you.
<2> he almost crapped himself, I almost pissed myself from laughing
<11> Lol
<2> Oh he did
<2> he turned it down immedietly
<11> I was thinking of building an emp to knock the sound system out of commission.
<2> I smiled about that for days it was a big one time victory
<2> Felt like a hole in one golf shot
<11> I need some big capacitors.
<11> And a dozen car batteries or so.
<10> Linus-: Ugh. People can not hear a ****ing TRAIN just by having their windows up and stock stereo "on" muchless by driving with headphones or by using obscenely loud stereos .. You should be allowed to do whatever the **** you want. YOUR rights dont extent to forbid not being offended.
<6> yeah they are going deaf from that loud ****, so i guess it's instant karma
<12> a nation that needs laws can not stand without them
<11> But then they have to turn the music up and they go even more deaf.
<11> I don't know if laws are
<11> nevermind
<6> i drive my motorcycle with earbuds and a helmet, but i try to keep the tunes low volume
<10> Some people I'd imagine couldnt hear an emergency vehicle next to them w/o any stereo on .. and yet, they're allowed to drive. A law dictating our responsible people drive because certain people cant handle it is ****ing absurd .. and on top of that, ineffective at accomplishing its stated goal-- that is, to apparently make someone or something safer..
<10> our/how*
<11> The president of Iran calls he US a "hollow super-power." http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/iran_nuclear;_ylt=AiqS6J9_8X4PL6cM4H0yxUCs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--
<1> icmps, actually they
<1> do
<10> sintient: Sweet.
<1> your rights end when my rights are impinged upon
<11> I know deaf people with driver's licenses.
<10> Your rights do not include NOT being offended.
<1> they sure as hell do
<1> ref: hate speech
<13> my constitutional rights has been violated
<13> with a broom handle!
<11> Disturbing the Peace is against the law.
<1> w00t
<10> Linus-: Hate speech is not only unconstitutional, but wrong.
<6> sonic ***ault is still ***ault
<10> next?
<1> for years it was ok
<10> Just because laws exist that support your argument doesnt make your argument fact.
<11> You can't say what you want?
<1> only relatively recently was it ruled that it wasn't covered by 1st amendment
<11> I didn't know that.
<10> Oh really? And how many other times has our judiciary ruled incorrectly?
<10> It ****ing STARTED doing so in the 1700s.. WHEN IT WAS CREATED!
<11> ARGH!
<1> well, there are laws on books in most municipalities governing decibels and cars
<1> they just aren't being enforced
<10> Probably because they cant be enforced.
<11> They enforce them but pulling over a car for a loud stereo isn't top priority.,
<1> exactly
<6> gotta do like barney fife, citizens arrest citizens arrest
<10> There are many bull**** laws that simply cant be enforced
<11> You can enforce them.
<10> And a lot of that comes from the way that it is determined to 'violate' another persons rights ..
<13> Schneider said Sheehan had worn a T-shirt with an anti-war slogan to the speech and covered it up until she took her seat. Police warned her that such displays were not allowed, but she did not respond, the spokeswoman said.
<10> When that is difficult to ascertain, how can a cop effectively enforce the law?
<13> must be laws about clothing
<10> They cant.
<11> I saw her shirt.
<13> in the constitution
<11> I had a running tally of soldier deaths in Iraq.
<1> i can't stand sheehan, but to haul her off last night based on her t-shirt...
<1> ack
<13> yeah thats not right
<10> That's another bull**** law.:)
<11> It had like 2XYZ and the Z number was crossed out and a bigger number put sketched in.
<10> It's almost Orwellian thought crime.. as someone mentioned last night
<1> how did she get in anyway?
<11> Just because the press wanted to get a picture of her.
<1> i didn't know the public could
<10> A representative gave her a ticket.
<11> She was invited by a representative.
<10> her THEIR ticket
<14> keep telling yourself that you live in a free country.
<1> the topic suggesting it was a dem stunt is hilarious
<10> Zaw: I do!
<10> Zaw: :P
<13> she had to right to be there with that t-shirt on
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