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Comments:
<0> oh I missed the speech huh
<1> how many of you actually understand E=mc2'd
<2> darth: "quagmire!"
<1> OUTSIDE of the earth?
<3> took me a while to understand theory of relativity
<4> we should have let yoguslavia get rid of the terrorists
<4> they wern't ethnic cleansing
<5> Democrats, who hope to regain control of the House and Senate this year, are expected to counter President Bush's take on the state of the nation, saying "there is a better way" to govern. "The federal government should serve the American people. But that mission is frustrated by this administration's poor choices and bad management," Virginia Gov. Timothy M. Kaine plans to say Tuesday.
<6> it's all relative to me
<5> yawn
<4> they were getting rid of terrorists
<2> well, e=mc2 is not the full formula.. just a solution for a certain set of boundary conditions
<1> Usmale thats good because i can't think in 53 dimensions=)
<0> it isonly "electron rest m***"
<7> ooooooooooooooooooh
<2> Darth: I tell ya, Gov Kaine was about the worst political speech i've seen in ages
<7> e=mc^2 = rest energy
<5> yeah
<8> gov kaine was awful
<1> and trying to explain it is even hardder
<7> E is gamma*m*c^2 = total energy
<9> DarthBurg: the Democrats already tried the Annie Get Your Gun "Anything you can do I can do better" routine in '04 and got trounced.
<6> US...Fox News is replaying the SOTU address right now...just starting
<5> he is a donkey, what do you expect
<8> "we are too reliant on middle eastern oil"
<8> like.....bush just said that
<7> derivation is one of the easiest things, it's great
<4> `426Hemi: you can't? why not
<7> well, relatively anyway
<0> BlkOps cool thanks
<10> Kaine was brilliant, first thing he called for was a tax hike, then he whined about how Bush had run up the deficit, then he listed about a dozen new spending programs he wanted
<11> their audience does have a short attention span, blkops
<1> the majority of the people here can't even understand how to make a spear point
<7> derivations using maxwells equations are a LOT worse than any relativity derivation i've had to do
<6> US no problem...he hasn't evenwalked in on the replay yet...so you dodn't miss anything
<0> excellent
<8> rockfish :)
<1> Rockford
<3> you gotta admit, the deficit is pretty brutal
<0> Maxwell was looking at things in a comprehensive way
<2> US_Male: You missed Cindy Sheehan being handcuffed and hauled away for her looney antics :-)
<6> complete with files?
<8> wasnt kaine complaining that we were cutting back on troops?
<7> she got arrested again today lupine?
<8> when teh dems were complaining that we were sending troops?
<0> Lupine: no way really ?
<5> yeah
<10> Allan, fine, but if you're gonna whine about it at least don't start spouting off spending wishlists five seconds later
<2> allan: not realy, especially when you consider all that has occured in the last few years. What is brutal was, how it was not paid down during "the good times" of the mid/late 90s
<6> at the sotu...tried to hang a banner from the upper deck
<5> Police handcuffed Sheehan and removed her from the gallery before Bush arrived. Sheehan was to be released on her own recognizance, Schneider said.
<0> lol
<10> They should have remanded Sheehan to a psych ward for observation
<2> US: she didn't even have the frigging brains to wait till bush was talking
<5> Activist Cindy Sheehan, who was invited to President George W. Bush's State of the Union speech, has been arrested, according to CNN. Sheehan, who was invited to attend the address by California's Democratic Rep. Lynn Woolsey, was reportedly already seated in the House chamber when she was detained, CNN said. A Capitol police official reportedly said Sheehan had unfurled a banner, which is a violation of House rules.
<0> what a dingbat
<8> i dont know if sheehan understands that bush is the president of the united states and .you really can't mess with the security of the president
<5> yeah they broke the mold with that one
<2> she should have waited for bush to be ~10 minutes into his speech.. rip off her clothing and run down the aisle, screaming peace and love for all
<10> Peace, this really didn't have anything to do with security, she was just violating the rules of the Capitol
<12> I liked what Bush said about US' plan to become much less reliant upon arab oil by 2020
<8> lupine: now THAT would have been good
<2> Peace: it isn't even about that, there are rules and decorum
<5> i can just imagine what the Donkeys over at DU are saying
<8> well she should have been smart enough to wait until it was live
<0> I hope he menas it
<8> and bush was talking about freedom
<3> lupine.. what do you mean? you understand the difference between debt and deficit right?
<0> means
<2> yea well, it is cindy sheehan, she aint smart
<10> Cindy's a political prisoner----FREE CINDY!!!
<0> we need to build more nuke plants
<8> i mean duh
<12> How did the US' ever allow itself to become so dependent upon arab oil
<5> ask the donkeys
<2> allan: the two are intrinsicly linked..
<13> ug... I need an old priest, and a young priest...
<3> yes but you dont "pay down" the deficit
<3> in fact, there was m***ive surplus
<10> Kerpal the US isn't dependent on Arab oil, we get most of our oil from the western hemisphere
<1> you guys!@
<3> and the debt was on track to be eliminated within 10 years, yes things have happened, but still
<1> I am watching "The man who wouldn't die!"
<1> woo hooo!!!
<3> to swing over half a trillion dollars, not even including iraq or katrina
<14> Hahaha, no one wants the job for Liberal Party Leader
<2> allan: #1 i'm using the ***inine liberal speech, such as "pay for the tax cut".. second, the "surplus" was just a shell game. at no point, was the US debt actually paid down a time. It rose every year
<0> can't blame them
<12> US: Do you think Iran will go through with its nuclear projects
<0> I have no clue
<0> I'm not even sure they are as close as they say
<15> yes i wish he would have said how the sale of the strategic oil reserve contributed to the "surplus" and weakened our national security
<2> If you get a bonus, but spend it all [ and more so! ], it is not a true surplus
<5> Bush admin has brought in more fed revenues than the Clinton admin did, except for One Year, 2k, a banner year for the fed.
<12> US: They say they'll finish their project by march ! Do you think israel will allow Iran to build an atomic bomb ?
<2> how much value was vaporized in the stock market after 911? a hell of alot. Hell, one blip of google vaporized close to 20billion..
<3> lupine... having a surplus does not mean you are paying down the debt
<0> kerpal_: no they will do something if nobody else does -- provided the threat is real
<5> bingo
<2> allan: No, if you have a 'surplus' and SPEND IT.. it is *NOT* a surplus
<5> katey, catch the speech?
<2> otherwise, the govn't could just project $0 in tax revenue.. and then when every $1 come sin.. LOOK A SURPLUS!!!
<0> I know the Iranian leader lies, just not sure when he's lying
<16> DarthBurg, speech?
<5> SOTU
<2> all that matters at the end of the day is: was any $$$ used to pay off the debt, or was it spent. if it was spent, it was not surplus
<16> No. I haven't watched TV all day
<0> he might be far from having a nuke
<3> lupine... that doesnt make any sense, clearly your speaking out of your ***
<0> but we can't ***ume that
<2> allan: no, I simply do not play the shell game.
<3> making more money then a projection doesnt mean a surplus
<5> Katey, some fun was had: Police handcuffed Sheehan and removed her from the gallery before Bush arrived. Sheehan was to be released on her own recognizance, Schneider said.
<10> Spending will never be even close to under control until you reform entitlements and Democrats refuse to do that and Republicans don't have the votes to overcome a filibuster if they could even keep a majority in support of it with the RINO delegations
<2> if you spend the money, it aint a surplus
<12> US: Moslems talk a good fight..but when its time to walk the walk..they cry and beg for international intervention and help..Israel will have Iran on its knees within a day
<2> rock: one day, they'll have 66%.. and then they can kick out all the democrats out of congress via impeachment.. :-)
<5> Rep. John Kline demanded and got an apology Monday from his Democratic rival, Coleen Rowley
<3> what i dont understand about Iran is their insistance that they *need* to enrich uranium for peaceful nuclear use.
<10> Lupine, we can only hope
<3> Theres lots of nuclear technology that does not require enriched uranium
<5> are news paper editors incapable of writing the word, "Republican"?
<2> allan: that's trivial to understand. theya re lying.
<0> kerpal_: well the terrorist arm of Islam is all macho when they're cutting off a woman's head or something
<0> but otherwise, not so tough
<12> HAHAHAHA
<12> So true
<3> http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdhisto4.htm
<17> So, it's the demobrats and rino's who are responsible for the current out of control spending now?
<10> Yankee, not what I said
<3> you do have a point that the debt was not paid down at any point though
<3> even incremental amounts
<0> big bad-***es when they make a one-shiot thing like 9/11 ..... which they succeeded greatly but only halfway with their intended targets
<2> allan: right, which is why the "surplus" is a shell game. if you spend it, or borrow more money etc..
<0> meanwhile it wasa oneshot deal - can't do that again
<2> i mean jesus.. anyone could borrow money, then claim they have a surplus! people do it all the time, buying a car on a credit card..
<10> But it is the Democrats and the RINO's who are responsible for the out of control entitlement spending that makes up the bulk of the deficit, you can blame Republicans for defense spending if you wish, but hey wars cost money
<5> the fed's current out of control spending is a direct result of Bush not using his veto pen
<3> well no... borrowing money doesnt count into a surplus
<3> but yeah, it is sorta a shell game
<14> DarthBurg: Yeah, well, this time there's no one to blame there, except Bush.
<5> Pickle ayup
<3> what I find funny is how canada has managed to run a surplus for 8 years and pay down our debt, even through 9/11 and the slowdown after
<3> even with our "liberal" government
<5> Canada has zero military.
<18> allan5oh: cuz yer taxed out the ***?
<3> we also have universal health care
<14> This is the best time for a President to be vetoing ****: when Congress is fractured and couldn't override. Yet he hasn't, and there's no sign that he will.
<5> universal health care is to be avoided like the plague, ask any canadian
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