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<0> I really want a Lisa
<0> or Mac XL
<0> same thing
<1> pilgrims hot to trot for a lisa
<0> but I would prefer a Twiggy drive
<2> Yeah I love Grainger as a store, They had things you cant find at retail stores or they have prices which are so much better, and i get a huge discount off their catalog.
<0> Free Grainger is the name of a 19th cent arms dealer in London...I have their catalog
<2> Well I am having my lunch.. Slimfast :)Generic.
<3> the joke will be on all of us when Google launches Google Rmonace for real
<1> panini: finally computer geeks can discover true love
<2> Lost 10 bs since christmas, 20 more to go.
<4> FreeTrade im low carbing - lost tons of weight very easily
<3> tons?
<4> 78 tons
<3> whoa



<4> i havent used a scale
<4> but im down 2 pants sizes in the last month
<0> ever since the ex left, I balooned
<3> yeah, low carb seems to actually work
<2> The most weight I ever lost was when I went on virtually a NO FAT diet.. I lost 40 pounds and kept it off for 2 years.
<4> i travelled a lot the last year, ate out all the time
<2> Then I got piggish
<2> But IM sticking now to a low intake diet, Im liek for example eating lots of soup
<3> low carb works better than low fat
<5> panini yep, but it can be a dangerous thing if not done properly. I've been working out and that's been helpful
<0> I feed a 15 year old. Hard to diet and not starve my kid
<4> trouble with low cal diets is they set your metabolic rate lower
<2> Chicken and rice, campbells.. very low calories rich in vitamins and minerals and fluids a little protein and few carbos
<3> FT that works for you?
<4> so when you stop dieting even if you eat less than you did before you dieted you still gain weight
<2> Whats that mean ? IM hyperactive, that isnt your metabolism ?
<2> Panini, Yeah it works.. both diets i described work
<4> basal metabolic rate - number of calories your body burns a day
<0> If anyone sees this. buy it. I will gladly pay shipping plus anoy price up to 50 bucks for it http://www.macgeek.org/museum/applelisa1/apple1_00.jpg
<3> seems like you would be very hungry on that diet
<4> lowering caloric intake makes your body more efficient in use of calories which is bad
<0> alternately, this: http://www.weller.to/wcc/apple/wcc-apple-lisa-l.jpg
<1> pil: negative.. going to make mine into a fish tank
<2> I talked to my doctor and he said all the dietes work, the key is lifestyle change, really all you need to do is train yourself to eat a little less food and you can eat the same thing. So I am doing that I am eating less food but what i eat is high protein
<0> Lupien you HAVE one?
<0> I want to run a web server on one
<0> I amdead serious
<2> Slim fast type drinks, (I get Costcos brand much cheaper), Actually fill me up
<2> I am full now and just had one.
<4> FreeTrade my my fiancees entire biochem dept is low carbing heh
<2> At night I also eat food food.
<2> hmmm
<2> Well My diet is low cal, and low fat.
<2> High protein though
<3> Lupine, yeah that's the best use for a Mac
<0> well I started the day on Western Style Hashbrowns with real green chile. not low carb that
<0> panini it ain't a Mac!
<0> its a Lisa
<3> oh the lisa
<4> whats a western style hash brown? you cant grow a potato in the desert. ;)
<3> mac's mom
<2> Pilgrim, My son eats 10 times what I eat, and hes as skinny as he was last time you saw him only hes a foot or so taller.
<0> I want a Lisa... to run a web server on
<0> Free samne with mine. disgusting little savages
<2> But then Me and my son are just exactly like my dad
<0> Free I was skiny as a rail as a kid
<2> I was on the skinny side of the scale most my life ad my dad was
<2> and sometime about 40 in our male family history we all fill out.
<0> last few years: baloon
<1> pilgrim: no, I had one. we sacrified it, and a ton of other old computers to the riflery gods
<0> Lupine damn
<1> "Dem blew up good!"
<2> Its like genetics or something.
<0> I have done that top PC Jrs, and other junk but heck a Lisa is worth loot to collectors.....like me
<0> to
<1> pil: i was joking about the lisa.. just to egg ya ;-)
<1> but have shot up old computers... PS/1 and PS/2 and digital rainbows mostly.. i.e. m*** produced crud
<6> Greetings :)
<0> 2 things I am always looking for: 1 Apple II cards of interest such as Hard drive, accelerator or sound cards. 2 Lisas or other rare comps
<2> For the price of HBO, I get 12-15 movies a month and all ones I want to see and can see at my own covenience. I love it, I quit all my movie channels.



<0> I watch documentaries....so I download
<6> Mona Lisas? The Jobs Code?
<2> Whats weird is I send a disc back to them at around noon, and that night they say they have recieved it.
<2> Its bizaare
<0> well actually Woz and Raskin's code
<2> same day I mail it they recieve it
<3> FT yup, same here
<2> Panini, Netflix ?
<0> II built a new beastie to play with
<6> FreeTrade you watch 12-15 movies a month?
<0> PC
<2> There in San Jose
<3> yes netflix
<2> Thebeauty is its in the same area
<3> somehow mail gets to them very quickly
<2> Yeah, And we both are around San Jose relatively close anyway
<0> its a Celeron 2.6 with 512 and lets see...I think I have 5 drives in it now
<4> if any of you have interesting old computers i can put you in touch with one of the curators of the computer museum
<3> maybe they bribe the postal workers or something
<2> its less than an hour drive for me if its the highway isnt crowded probably what ? 45 minutes to San Jose ?
<0> b1ff which one? I know the Digibarn guy
<2> Berkeley to San jose?
<4> pilgrim` his name is lyle, fiancee actually knows him better than me
<4> pilgrim` hes in the bay area
<2> I dont usually pay attention but the only time it ****s is during the commute hours..
<0> b1ff I am sort of a "name" in one retro area
<4> they have a bunch of old stuff in the museum and it still runs
<4> pilgrim` which area
<0> Apple II
<2> I went to san jose years ago in a dumptruck to pick up a bunch of steel beams and posts for some steel construction I was doing, and I got caught on the road which leads to Intel.
<2> Oh my god
<4> lol i mean older than apple 2 even
<2> its a city street which is about 10 lanes wide or it seemed anyway
<5> lol
<0> b1ff let me tell you a tale...
<2> if it wasnt 10 it was at least 8
<2> And it just crawled.. In a dump truck that isnt fun.
<0> a fellow named Paul once wrote a marvelous emulator
<2> Panini, its possible at midnight at the San jose distribution center they pick them up same day
<0> it could mimic all sorts of comps... early comps
<0> he used it to write various opsys for said comps, and a form of the Basic language they could use
<7> http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/000247.php
<7> he does it again!
<2> If a truck is out of here to san Jose at 6pm or 7pm hes there at the lastest in bad traffic 9 pm
<0> I know this becasuse... at the time...
<0> I was working as a computer operator
<2> and they could come in at 11:45 pm and pick them up.
<4> ok
<8> http://www.censurecarter.com/video/1/
<4> ive never been an operator, seems like a real crummy job
<0> Paul and a friend were working for a small company that supplied 1 that software, and 2 other work for a traffic consultant in our area
<2> IM tempted to ask them but why even possibly spoil a good thing ;)
<0> area= Albuquerque NM
<0> his buddy was a young, unkempt, smelled bad, rude little twerp named Bill
<4> lol
<0> I dealt with Bill a lot
<4> ah
<4> that paul
<0> handing him printouts and talkin about runs
<1> FT: that happens regularly here as well. then again, netflix is like 15 minutes from where I am at, so..
<0> that was a long long time ago
<2> Seriously I think we should go after those missile they have
<1> pil: how about this computer setup? http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6300500589870594385&q=cockpit
<4> pil very interesting
<4> brb
<0> I think Iran is a buncha loons, and I say that knwing their culture better then most Amereicans
<5> pilgrim they are
<2> Lupine but i am as the crow flies well 40 miles maybe ? From san jose, And I go through berkeley office, and they pick it up in San Jose office same day
<2> I think that they must take local mail to say SF, San Jose, Oakland etc
<2> And then if its national male, They send it to Oakland for processing.
<2> national Mail
<4> what if its US-Male
<9> Freetrade: why doesn't Iran have the right to weapons?
<2> Like if its to Oregon it goes to Berkeley then Oakland, then Portland I suspect


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