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<0> Lupine, If there is amnesty they have to have insurance. driving without insurance is a crime. or an infraction onw of the two, I know that just not having my insurance in my car if I get in a wreck or if I am pulled over for a legitimate reason, They can confiscate my license
<1> Lupine... I never figured that on out either, when they are at fault you have to pay for their cost
<0> Janet, but not if they have insurance..
<2> JanetB: because they are not going to get paid otherwise :P
<3> janet: yep, punish the law abiding folk for the crimes of others
<3> why the hell should an uninsured motorist get ANY money for an "accident" that THEY committed?
<4> we have to give these uninsured illegals the benefit of the doubt, maybe they arent getting paid enough to afford insurance
<3> td: so ****ING what.. don't DRIVE
<0> My experience in the barrio has been this, I lived in a barrio.. It was the ****ing american mexicans who caused 99% of the trouble, not the illegals or the ones with work visas, they are here to work and if they are not they should be sent back immediately
<2> td-: then they shouldn't be driving
<4> well you have a point there
<3> owning and driving a car is expensive.. it isn't a right
<2> driving is a PRIVILEGE, NOT a right!
<5> FreeTrade your liberal bias on this issue is extreme
<3> FT: yea, and on the 2nd time, they should be doing hardlabor along the boarder, building a wall
<0> In these parades 90% of the toruble makers are American citizens. agitating, the organizers said to be peaceful carry american flags and be respectful, I saw a lot of American flags and mexican flags, and fox news reporter said every person they talked to agreed with a comprhensive package meaning they agreed with border control. Obviously fox didnt talk to the radicals, they talked to the avg protestor.
<4> where do you get this figure of 90%
<0> But regardless, if a small population of people goes out and acts like ***es Im not going to blame them all
<0> When louis farrakhan and his NOI Preaches their racism, I blame them, I dont blame blacks.
<0> Most blacks dotn like louis Farrakhan
<4> farrkhan seems to have disapeared
<2> hmmmnm...what to have for brunch...
<0> td the firgure is random guess based on my experience having been witnessed to protests and marches and having been witness to a lot of things as well as being aware of what fox was reporting as their experience as they interviewed people
<0> I just know that a small amount cause all the big problems
<0> in france it was less than 5% OF THE Protestors who destroyed property and caused violence, they demonstrated this at the end when everyone went home there was a small core group of radicals
<6> howdy
<6> i just saw a great headline on drudge and had to come share it - ""Killing Bin Laden will inspire 10 more: Dalai Lama..." If being Dalai Lama is so hot, let's kill him and inspire 10 more men of peace!
<3> we don't live in a police state?
<3> flags and mexican flags, and fox news reporter said every person they talked t
<0> Also Living in Berkeley I have learned how these things work, Radicals organize these things and they infiltrate them all the time, Peaceful Anti war demonstrators like my mom and sister were out marching but they had no clue as I knew but they didnt that the socialist workersa party organized it, they are not the least bit socialist.
<3> Broward police union put personal information on the Web about a reporter for a South Florida television station after he produced a piece called `Police Station Intimidation.'
<0> And each of these demonstrations have paid protestors
<0> They are paid
<3> The personal information of an investigative reporter was posted prominently on a South Florida police union's website after a local television station aired a report about how police in Broward and Miami-Dade counties deal with the public.
<3> The address, date of birth and driver's license number of WFOR CBS-4 reporter Mike Kirsch was posted as a BOLO -- or ''be on the lookout'' -- on the website of the Broward County Police Benevolent ***ociation.
<0> THey are professional
<0> They are paid to start ****
<3> BOLOs typically are issued by police departments when officers are looking for criminals or missing persons.
<0> to start violence
<0> To cause arrests
<6> freetrade - theresa heinz fund the ruckus society
<6> via another charity
<3> nice: a reporter captures cops on video, threatening those who wish to file a complaint.. so the cops issue a BOLO out for him
<3> Alan Rosenthal, an attorney for CBS-4, a Miami Herald news partner, demanded that the union remove the BOLO, calling it false and a violation of Florida and federal law that prohibits the disclosure of ``personal identifying information contained in motor vehicle records.''
<0> I understand the nature of an average protest as well as anyone, I live in the US Capital of protests and I have seen them many times and I have listend to people in the protests. some of whom are there for no other reason than there is nothing better or more exiting to do on that day
<3> but hey.. let's have all the ACLU/etc.. worry about he "rights" of a self-confessed child rapist/murderer
<0> I listened to rich southern california wealthy daddies girls talki abotu how fun it was going to be to be in a protest and they were giddy and laughing, It was a joke to them, entertainemtn, something to do, I overheard their phobe booth conversation.
<0> I was down where they were ***embling
<6> FreeTrade have you seen this site? its run by some of the people who organized the LA protests http://mexica-movement.org/granmarcha.htm
<6> here is one of the more interesting quotes: "
<6> One of the more negative parts of the march was when American flags were p***ed out to make sure the marchers were looked on as part of "America"
<0> this was one of the ones where they closed down the bay bride and pissed off most workers who commute who are from Berrkeley Oakland, San Francisco, people crossing the bridge of all political stripes were very angry at the protestors
<0> biff, I know for a fact the organizers said no Mexican flags, bring only american, and be peaceful
<0> This is a case where the organizers were good but the infiltrators were bad.
<6> how about the "this is our continent not yours" signs
<3> i say, let the protesters bring what they want to bring.. so we can see how the _people_ are
<6> exactly
<6> thats what happened
<6> look at those photos
<3> if they have to be told to bring american flags.. ugh
<6> they marched past my house in phoenix 2x last week
<0> And still you take the total population of them and its in LA A City which is to me a SCUM OF THE EARTH city and they represent not even 1% of illegals
<6> not an american flag in site
<0> and a lot of them were legals
<0> IM not going to look at those photos or that website, because i know very well the dynamics of protests.
<6> there were signs that said "yanqui go home" and "this land was stolen" and a lot of tricolor mexican flags. these were high school students.
<6> that was right past my house
<6> 500-600
<3> b1ff: and yet, the mainstream media intentionally suppresses that information
<1> these students are going way over board
<6> who should i believe, you or my own lying eyes
<0> I also know illegals very well, most of them are terrified of something like participating at a protest, they would believe it was probably a INS trap or ICE as they call them now.
<0> Biff, Your lying eyes you shouldnt beleive
<1> and they need to be suspended for cutting school
<0> Because you only saw how many people total ?
<0> How many people total did you see ?
<6> FreeTrade they were walking about 4 miles from their school to the state capital
<0> FOr each person you saw there were at least 10,000 you didnt see,
<1> FT.. he is right there were about 500 kids that cut school to protest
<3> janet: my suggesting was to give a 1000point popquiz to the kids who stayed in.. "what is 1+1="? and offer no makeup quizes
<6> my house is between - there were others that came from other directions
<0> If oen had 1.2 million and they included whites, they included legals and i would guess less than 25% participating were illegals
<1> hehe lupine
<6> http://mexica-movement.org/images/usflagupside.jpg
<6> you see that one
<6> from montebello
<0> An dif they had .5 million then 25% is .125 million which is exactly 1% of the total of 12-14 million in the country
<0> So you make a judgment on 1%
<6> FreeTrade i dont hear condemnation of the signs ive seen either
<6> none
<7> Hey guys
<6> do you watch the spanish media?
<6> its not presented like you say
<1> FT.. but we have a right to be upset about what that 1% is doing ...
<0> We call that ignorance, and thats why it took so long for us to stop most the bigotry against blacks, because much more than 1% were leading crime in this country. But I still dont blame all blacksfor what a large percentage of blacks do.
<6> this is not about bigotry - except if you want to count the la raza irredentist racists
<0> Blacks in fact to this day by % cause more crime than any group including hispanics.
<6> do you know what la raza means in spanish FreeTrade
<8> the race?
<0> and illegals I am sure is probably lower than both black and whites in America who are citizens..
<1> this is OUR country.. and not there's they are disrupting businesses, schools.. and breaking laws in not getting permits to march
<0> biff, I know more than what it means, I know the whole philosophy of it
<6> FreeTrade why don't you translate for me: "Por La Raza Todo, Fuera de La Raza Nada"
<7> lol
<7> hellooo
<6> hi
<0> And I also know it developed by citizens of hispanic descent on American College campus's
<6> yes. MeCHa
<1> and then they have the nerve to demand.. DEMAND an apology from the mayor, cause he said they need to get permits these are unlawful marches
<6> veryy popular group
<0> No they are not very popular
<0> thats untrue
<6> hahah been on a campus lately
<0> They are a small minority
<0> VERY SMALL
<6> lol
<0> Yeas I live in a ****ing college town
<6> here in phoenix MeCHa is mucho grande
<7> Not in Atlanta
<6> well duh
<7> hahaha
<6> lol
<7> ...
<7> There are a lot of hispanics in the Atlanta area though
<6> yeah i bet its not big in north dakota either.
<9> Probably not real popular in Anchorage either
<6> hahahah
<6> "a lot"
<7> you been here?
<8> so why are americans against more immigrants coming into the US
<8> or legalizing the illegal immigrants?
<7> ok
<6> ive been to atlanta
<9> There are a lot of Latinos in Atlanta
<7> compared to Phoenix
<7> no
<0> Wow they have changed quite a lot.
<7> but compared to most of America, yes
<0> They used to be much more radical
<0> just reading their website.
<6> they still are
<6> they just have a better image now
<0> There old radical goal which is silly and had no possibility of being realized which is why paranoia is unjustified was to take back what they view as mexican land
<6> can you tell me what the eagle in the MeCHa logo is holding FreeTrade
<6> in its sharp claws
<0> But I see today they arent even doing that except maybe a minority of the most radical ones.
<0> Biff, shut up
<0> I knwo their philosophy thats enough
<0> I know they are a minority a small minority
<0> and MOSTLY LEGAL AMERICANS
<6> lol its holding dynamite in one claw, and a aztec club studded with sharp obsidian in the other
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