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<0> well, I have been with my doctor 18 years, now.. so I am not sure what other doctors will do these days :)
<1> that's why, I want to see the proof.. take boarder security seriously first
<2> HICs take care of their patients very well.
<2> i've never had a problem getting a same day appointment
<3> HIC Is what ?
<2> HMO
<3> I like my HMO, ahh
<0> oh me either.. but I was so sick at christmas I could not get out of bed
<3> ok
<2> the term HMO isn't used so much anymore
<3> MY HMO has given excellent servive.
<2> within the industry, thaT is
<3> You just cant let them push you around if you learn that you will get good care.
<0> and he called me 3 days later just to make sure I was ok.. I love my doctor
<2> FreeTrade: who do you have?
<3> Lupine, I want very tight border security
<3> if for no other reason to make people like you and others happy and feel more secure.
<3> And its legitimate.
<0> I do not consider my doctor HMO... cause I had him before we had insurance.. and I have kept him and paid extra, when we had insurance his office did not take..
<2> HMO is all inclusive
<2> rarely do the doctors see non-HMO patients
<3> I have Kaiser Permanente, the largest HMO in the USA
<0> they do when you have been with them forever :D
<2> FreeTrade: good man. that's what i have also
<2> it's expensive, but luckily the feds pay 80%
<3> Yep, I am VERY happy with it.
<3> Why do the feds pay 80% ?
<3> On mine they pay nonwe
<3> er none
<2> because you're not a federal employee
<2> the feds pay 80% because my mother is a federal employee
<3> AHHHH
<0> wow, I have better insurance than you do... all I pay is a 10.00 co-pay for office visits and scripts, and 500 for major surgery
<3> Ok...
<3> I just dont want people to get the wrong impression its not a socialist HMO< its private..
<2> 10 dollars for scripts and doctors visits, 50 for surgery
<3> Btu public can provide health care to any private providor it wants
<0> but you said they only pay 80%
<2> cheaper doesn't mean better
<3> Janet, co pay
<3> Well, depends on the plan
<2> the federal goverment pays 80% of the monthly dues
<4> hmm
<4> brb
<3> I pay a $30 co pay for any doctor visit, why ? Because the plan is much less expensive if I do
<2> you pay per months, and you have co-pays
<3> I could get a $10 co pay
<3> But Why ?
<3> IN the last year I saw the doctor for an appointment, hmm at most 3 tiems ?
<3> 3 timees ?
<2> my mom pays less than 140 a month for herself, my dad, and i
<0> FreeTrade.. yeah my co-pay is 10.00 for dr visit and scripts.. and 500 for over night stays in hospitals and hubbys employer pays 100 of the monthly dues
<2> the gov't picks up the rest
<3> And I get 100 days supply of medications for $10.00 each prescription
<2> 500? jesuswe don't pay ANYTHING if the doctors admit you
<3> so I get $200 a month worth of drugs for $3 and change
<3> $200 and change if they were in a pharmacy pay as you go
<0> MissLaVey... emergency surgery is a 50.00 co pay.. I had a hysterectomy and it was 500.00 for everything
<1> Well, this is the first time I am on a regular insurance.. previously, it was a "health fund".. and I never paid out of pocket for anything
<3> My drugs are $1000 a year minimum and possibly more, i havent looked lately but they always have a This time you saved $400 or whatever.
<0> but I would rather pay the 500.00 than 20K it would have been
<2> JanetB: there's nothing that would cost us more than $50
<3> Your plan saved you...
<0> but since we are not paying 140 a month.. I will pay the 500 for hospital :D
<1> Miss: breast augmentation, cosmetic eye surgery? lipo? perminent nail coloring? :-)
<3> I chose to take the more catastophic plan, if i go in the hospital and they do surgeries and drugs and physical therapy or ANYTHING, the most I can spend in a year out of pocke is $3000.00
<2> Lupine: shhhh heh
<3> and if my whole family spends a year in the hospital maxium is $6000
<1> public workers in sanfransisco get ***-change operations paid on the taxpayers dime
<3> which I can pay
<2> they dont pay for cosmetic surgery
<2> BUT
<2> they do cover weight loss surgery
<3> Lupine, I dont pay SF Taxes thankfully
<5> Holy crap... Nebraska approves shall-issue concealed carry!
<3> ML only if its severe though
<1> glock: whoa, they did??
<5> Only 2 states left without some sort of concealed carry for its citizens.
<3> Also they will cover severe plastic surgery
<0> ours would pay for excess skin removal from weight loss... but I mean really excessive
<2> FreeTrade: if you fall within the guidelines and the pre-surgery stuff, they cover it
<2> reconstructive surgery they will cover, yes
<5> Lupine... got it in my NRA alerts, and they don't seem to be the April Fools types.
<3> It its a medical need or if its a very grotesque defect which can be fized.
<1> glock: well.. NYC/Chicago/Boston/LA/MD/DC etc are all "effectively banned"
<2> but not a boob job.
<3> They charge you full price for like boob jobs
<3> hjehe
<3> right
<0> I tried to talk my doctor into saying I had excess skin,,, from weight loss, but he laughed at me haha
<3> You and MissLavey are basically saying the same thing.
<2> >
<1> Tom DeLay got his concealed permit suspended
<0> well yeah, he is under indictment
<2> ?
<2> rather
<1> janet: yep, it is the law..
<1> personally, I think the federal govn't should p*** "defense of the right to self defense: a civil rights initive" and write into federal law, that no govn't may infringe upon the 2nd amendment. period.
<1> but that won't help us.. people are too worried about the "rights" of a self-confessed child rapist/murderer.. and dont care abou tthe rights of 250+million US citizens
<1> btw: I thought of a great idea: those illegals who are granted a work visa, must spend 1 month working on building a boarder-barrier.. to make amends
<3> Lupine why ?
<0> Lupine.. thats a good idea
<0> now I could go for that
<1> FT: two things #1 to lessen the cost #2 to effectively punish them for their transgressions
<3> Janet he should not have laughed.. Unless he was laughing with you, Its a serious concern
<0> it gives something back to the country they have illegally entered and taken from illegaly'
<6> Lupine: we just need a US Constitutional amendment written up that changes the wording of the 2nd Amendment to be explicitly for the common man and not some mutable interpretation of what constitutes a "well-regulated militia"
<3> \Lupine < im not sure I understand, I thought you said Tom Delay lost his concealed carry rights and I was curious why ?
<6> that way it doesn't give the USSC nor any other courts in the land the wiggle room to restrict access when it should not be restricted
<1> Iam: well, that is a red herring.. as they do not apply the 2nd to those who are legally in the militia
<6> FreeTrade: simply because Delay was indicted, he had his concealed carry permit suspended
<1> FT: in texas, if you are under a felony indictment, it is suspended
<1> also, there are some misdemenour indictments as well, domestic violence nad that kind of stuff
<1> just another tactic of what's the DA's name
<0> Delay, has domestic violence
<0> ?
<3> Lupine, ahh ok I guess that makes sense.
<1> JB: no, he is under felony indictment
<0> ok I read that wrong then
<6> roflmao @ "China buys Google"
<6> bwahahahahah
<6> ****ing Brits: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/04/01/china_buys_google/
<7> revoking the concealed carry permit is not an automatic
<0> I thought you said he got his permit to carry suspended cause of the felony, and that he had misdemenors for domestic violence and other things
<1> JB: oh, no.. those are the reasons why they can be suspended: any felony, or some misdemenours
<0> aww ok
<1> if you were yelling at your partner, and the cops show up.. that's one of them
<6> unfortunately, the smart*** who made this spoof ****ed up the 2-letter country code for China: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/04/01/google_china_new.jpg
<0> yelling is a crime?
<6> it's supposed to be .cn, NOT .ch :P (which is Switzerland)
<1> The coalition that organized an estimated 500,000 marchers in Los Angeles to protest immigration reform announced its next m*** action is "an economic and labor boycott that will paralyze the U.S. economy."
<1> The radical separatist publication La Voz de Aztlan, the Voice of Aztlan, said the proposed boycott is in response to a "racist" measure in Congress.
<0> whats racists.. about illegals?
<1> JB: just desperation on their part
<0> see this is making me angry, this is not a race issue
<3> Lupine, they are a minority they are overreacting, They are a radical tiny percentage of mostly American citizen radicals.
<3> The bill in congress is the most anti american bill I have ever seeen in my life.
<3> Not because they are after illegals becausee they spoke of Felony...
<0> 500K is not a small number of protesters to me
<3> Thats Soviety communism ****
<8> FreeTrade: what do you think when you hear about stories like this http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/3760911.html
<3> we dont have felonies for people who work in this country
<8> do you think that could perhaps be related to hispanic xenophobia
<3> To make a felony out of wanting a better life, is, well ****, What is a good word for it, I could say fascist but i dont like that word, it would be like stalinist russia.
<3> Its what we fought against my entire life
<3> Its what the GOP fought against my entire life
<0> FT.. I see no use for the law, just inforce whats on the book
<0> making another law, it just to make you think they are doing something, when nothing is being done
<1> td: then why do they have no problem with hispanics who are in the nation legally? either on visa's or citizens?
<3> Janet, Yes I agree
<1> I would prefer to see a bill that bars them from applying for US citizenship, unless they leave and enter legally. If they have an "amnesty" it should not allow them to become citizens
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