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<0> Echoes: ask in the forums on www.typophile.com
<0> Echoes: and btw, there's quite good introduction on wikipedia
<1> aia: :) thanks
<2> which icon is the little wizard thing
<2> i need to pick off letters on this image and move them around
<2> nevermind, magic wand
<3> *buuuuuuurp*
<2> Avril
<4> hi
<5> hows that pool?
<3> awesome
<6> What is good 3d prog that easy to use for modeling?
<6> Maya, xsi, max?
<5> i wouldnt say any of those are "easy"



<7> max is
<7> poser
<5> max would be the "easiest" out of the three
<6> really?
<5> then there's bryce...
<5> *laugh*
<6> I just downloaded maya and its pretty hardcore
<6> I do graphic design with photoshop and illustrator mostly, but want to learn some 3d prog
<7> :P it took me about a month to get used to maya moving from max
<6> Plus I don't want to do anymation, just modeling 3d stills
<6> Is Rhino any good?
<8> why do people use the .png file formatt?
<7> it keeps the alpha channels
<8> doesn't .psd also
<7> Rhino is base in nurbs modelling, and it would be pain to start with
<7> but some software does not like .psd
<8> oh
<8> ok thank you
<6> So, which one 3d is good to start learning?
<6> I just want to model 3d characters and objects
<7> i started with 3dmax
<7> brb,,
<6> how long it take you?
<7> need to backup my computer
<8> http://www.maxwellrender.com/gallery.htm
<8> Flexy___ check out that link
<6> ok
<8> that app/pluggin looks cool
<6> what is that/
<8> idk
<8> :P
<6> I should probably start learning Maya I guess
<6> 3dmax easier to learn?
<8> i have some maya pluggins
<6> for photoshop?
<8> no for maya
<8> i have tons of ps pluggins
<6> cool
<5> !info plugins
<5> bah
<5> scott fix my ****
<5> :)
<3> what ****?
<5> photoshop doesnt recognize me
<8> feral cause you ****
<8> :P
<5> **** it
<8> ...
<8> !wz 06614
<3> wtf was your nick on the bots?
<5> uh
<3> its not feral
<5> either feral or sunnyjim
<3> nope
<3> heh
<5> really?
<3> its sunny_jim
<3> haha
<5> :P
<5> time to update that methinks
<5> jeje



<3> try now
<5> !info plugins
<5> :D
<3> I'll send you a bill
<5> pfft i wont pay
<3> you like yer legs?
<3> :P
<5> emtp\y threats
<5> empty too
<3> heh
<5> it's really hard to type on this thing
<3> what thing?
<5> my laptop
<3> cell phone?
<3> hehe
<5> lol.... i'm not THAT lame
<3> hey now, I have been known to chat from my phone
<5> on IRC?
<3> nope, but I will be soon
<3> ssh on da phone baby
<5> oh lord
<5> i have AIM on my phone :D
<5> used it once
<5> hehe
<3> I have google talk
<3> and bb messenger
<3> aim is on there but its useless
<9> my phone has a 70x30 color display
<3> I have a crackberry
<9> it can barely show an icon
<3> but its borked
<9> ****
<9> blackberry is neat
<9> i was thinking about the Q
<3> so I am replacing it with a treo 700p
<9> or: the motorola v
<9> i'm up for a new phone 2 months ago but i'm lazy
<9> my display is half black & cracked, and it no longer charges unless i bend the plug a certain way
<3> I guess the treo can VPN
<9> it's awesome
<9> nice
<3> and run RDC
<9> treos rock
<3> now I am def getting one
<9> i have verizon though, and they criple every single phone they have
<3> because you said they rock
<9> awesome
<9> you should
<9> i am the law
<3> heh
<9> but yeah verizon is my favorite CARRIER but they are greedy ****ers
<9> i need to switch maybe
<8> If you know what your doing and not using pluggins just cause you can't do the effect yourself, then imo i see nothing wrong with using pluggins.
<9> they disable most bluetooth features so as to render it unusable except for very basic things
<8> hi shea
<8> :)
<9> so you have to pay for their pix service to transfer pictures from your phone
<9> and other such nonsense
<9> hi mike
<5> ford TOUGH
<5> damnit
<8> anyone here.
<8> Does anyone know of any good photoshop magazines, besides Ps user
<8> which is so expensive
<8> cool font
<8> http://www.dafont.com/catsalphabet.font
<8> how do i add 2 different files into the same channel
<8> under layers
<10> drag and drop layerss?
<10> dray layer A onto picture B
<8> obstic i am sorry
<8> for asking such a stupid question
<8> you're right


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