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<0> good eve Sauce
<1> heY
<0> so how is life treating ya
<1> good. what ya been up to?
<0> just the usual, working hard at the strip clubs
<1> how hard?
<2> A1_sauce hey
<0> very hard
<1> anyway, what have you been up to?
<1> wertYYYYY
<3> is there any good tutorial out there on how to make websites with CS2 ?
<4> hmm
<4> thats kind of a crazy question...
<3> why? :O
<3> well i heared you cna make websites now with cs2
<4> photoshop and imageready will take care of your slices and tables...



<3> and being a html noob i thought lets check it out
<4> then you need to know how to make websites
<4> do you use dreamweaver?
<3> ye
<3> im bad in makeing tabels
<3> tables
<4> export your html base through PS and IR
<4> and then take it into dreamweaver and kick ***
<4> if your a noob then that will work
<3> okay so with cs2 you can slice and it makes tables
<4> :)
<3> im sitll at ps7
<3> :P
<4> set up giudes where you want slices
<4> do it in 7
<3> it got slice though i never rly used it
<4> you can
<4> I do all the time
<3> :O
<3> how
<3> does it also make tabels? :O
<4> MAKE GUIDES
<3> umm
<4> PRESS THE BOTTOM THING ON YOUR TOOLBAR
<5> Badname: take some course, if you are too lazy to learn either html, xhtml or dreamweaver
<5> photoshop isn't a tool for web development
<5> just for the design part
<5> sure, it can export some type of html and such, but that can't be compared to properly made website code
<4> I was giving him an easy way
<3> wellt he funyn thing is i have work with ps quite some time makeing textures ect but some tools are still unknown to me
<4> quite some time = how long?
<3> long :P
<4> long for me is 11 years
<3> ok then umm 3 years
<4> k
<4> there is a lot you can do with it but web work should not be done with it except as a support tool
<4> although you can use it to kick out tables and prefab slices out of your document
<3> umm the thing is i need to put a website together quickly and i can be a bit nooby
<3> yeah lets see if i can get that to work
<4> if you need it fast with just html and quickness
<4> then that I geuss could be a good way
<3> ok the guides are the blue lines u can drag onto your 'painting'
<5> although, designing with tables is considered pretty deprecated these days =)
<3> if those guides devide the whole website into squares where youw ant to have tables
<4> if it makes you $ then who cares aia
<3> what do you have to press for it to save it
<5> so that's a method not to learn. use xhtml 1.0 strict/loose instead + css
<4> he seems like hes in a place where he just needs to get it done
<3> ye
<4> ok badname, because this person feel the need to give a lesson Ill let that person teach you
<3> lol
<4> go ahead aia
<4> your good to go for a master cl***
<5> I can give cl***es if I'm paid for it
<5> so are teachers in schools etc
<3> haha
<5> anyway.. I'm the kind of person, if I need to learn, I learn properly
<5> I'm just giving advice on the technology used today
<4> then if someone is trying to give help for free then STOP TRYING TO BE AN IDIOT AND THWARTING THEIR PLANS TO HELP SOMEONE GET THE JOB DONE
<5> not yesterday's
<3> anyway pls tell me now that i got those guides whats next



<5> RyanRawk: sorry if you interpret it like that
<4> when the job has to be done it gets done anyway possible
<3> is there any tut online
<4> in the workplace thats how it works
<5> RyanRawk: that depends on the workplaces :D
<4> in crunch time its how it goes
<4> just make it work
<5> in proper places these days, they use xhtml + css. they decide on a layout, solve it in css, and then use some cms
<4> proper...
<5> sure. there are probably design agencies too that can get it going still by using oldschool html tables
<3> ah it worked
<4> it worked
<4> cool
<3> i used guides then sliced and then save for web and it saved it how i wanted
<3> coll stuff
<3> so now i cna make the whole page in ps and then in dreamweaver add the text umm
<4> aia: Im not a coder, just trying to help someone, Im a 3d animator and a matte painter
<3> if i got like a table how cna i made a nice table in it for text
<5> RyanRawk: so did I
<4> you werent for his cause
<4> but for his future
<3> oh guys comon^^
<5> RyanRawk: and I believe in not only helping with the current, I try to help a person in the right direction too
<4> ok
<4> your good to go
<5> it's boring to not develop as a human. and developing skills is pretty important in work life
<4> tell him something to help him right now get this done
<5> no? I saw that you were doing that
<5> and you suceeeded
<4> you found a need to pull it in the other direction
<4> so its your game
<3> oh darn now i got all these sliced up images in dreamweaver
<3> but i cant add text
<3> ;o
<6> msg me
<5> RyanKnope: matte painter you say.. so, you've got any portfolio?
<6> nah, Im a nobody
<6> do you
<6> you seem like somebody
<5> everyone is someone
<6> obviously you have an online portfolio otherwise you wouldnt have asked me
<5> I got a quick one I put up for one job I searched.. just put up what I had available about then
<5> http://www.dahlfors.net is mine
<5> RyanKnope: nah. wanted to see yours
<5> RyanKnope: don't be so paranoid :)
<5> RyanKnope: see. I'm interested in learning more about matte painting
<5> I've dealt with a bit of this and that with web/print design
<6> dont have much as far as matte painting on my site, just started on that as contract, but www.ryanknope.com
<6> http://www.ryanknope.com
<6> lots of 3d to look at
<6> some painting
<6> some 2d
<6> drawing
<3> i thinkw e have a winner :P
<5> RyanKnope: so, matte painting for full length films or ads?
<7> yo ho
<6> honestly... ive worked on a few indie films, and ive done plenty of ads
<6> I had contracts for a few others thatr fell through
<6> hey shea
<7> yeah
<6> aia: how long have you been doing this?
<5> RyanKnope: doing what?
<6> your art on the computer
<5> html since 96-97 sometimes
<5> depends on what you consider as art on a computer
<6> I meant art
<5> I'm a photoshop user since version 4 or so
<6> trad art delivered to a comp
<6> you seem to be calling me out when asking for my matte painting
<6> any thoughts
<5> any thoughts? I'd just like to know good material to learn from
<5> the gnomon dvds on matte painting is good I've heard
<6> I own a few
<6> they rock


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