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<0> sup
<1> jahshua u lamer
<1> why u fukin w/ openbsd
<2> m4t: why are you spelling like a 14 year old?
<1> why are you a faggot
<1> ?
<2> that's just the way i was born :)
<1> :/
<1> does openbsd make u feel more secure
<2> only rubber does
<3> heh
<1> toft try these
<1> http://www.drillsandskills.com/images/display?path=leglift.jpg
<2> nah, going to sleep instead
<2> have fun
<1> why havent i been banned yet
<0> sup lizsac
<4> whoop
<5> heya kurt
<4> woof
<6> *burp*
<0> moin
<7> I have a cable modem and for the moment I'm using a (god forsaken) D-Link router with 4 ports. However, I was thinking on setting up a BSD machine as a LAN DHCP server (2 eth card and connected to a hub or switch). What would I use as a port redirector to open ports on other computers on the LAN and anyone got tip on dhcp servers/firewalls?
<7> Right now I actually have to reboot the router (thus making the entire network shutdown for a second) everytime I want to redirect a TCP/UDP port.
<8> openbsd has inbuild firewall that does port rdr etc.. called pf
<7> Nice.. And for dhcp?
<8> it comes witha dhcpd
<7> Oh right
<7> Well other then pf suggestions for firewall/port redirect?
<9> freebsd also has pf
<8> yea
<7> Just called "pf"?
<9> pf is the best firewall/nat software period
<8> yes
<9> only oses that have it so far is Open/Free/NetBSD
<8> pf = packet filter
<7> ty
<8> http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/
<10> pf is the best out right now
<9> Im just in the process of rebuilding our OpenBSD firewall, building a new one up now, once its in place Im gonna rebuild the old one and have it set as a backup firewall, using CARP/pfsync, so that if one dies the other firewall keeps things running, without even dropping active connections
<10> how likely is it to die?
<9> not very
<9> but say a power supply or mb goes
<10> i hear ya buddy
<9> Ive had an openbsd install running on a P90 running at 100Mhz with an uptime of over 800 days
<7> Can't find PF package on any of the FreeBSD FTP's (from sysinstall menu). Only belonging software, like pftop etc.. I rly need to dl source and compile? =/
<9> nope, its part of the base openbsd install
<7> Yeah but I'm kinda rly using FreeBSD just that I can't join that channel, don't know why I just get instantly kicked on join, allways have been.
<7> Just that... j00nix is j00nix :P Shouldn't matter rly =)
<9> freebsd has it in the default install too
<7> Okay
<7> Cool..
<7> Oohh I found it =)
<7> pf support port redirect ?
<9> my home nat box/fileserver runs freebsd, at work I use open, but then they dont do file serving etc....
<9> yep
<7> Then I must study PF
<9> eg rdr p*** on $ext_if from any to $ext_ip port 80 -> 192.168.0.2 port 80
<7> Damn even the conf is like a big script ><
<7> Ok
<7> Nice
<11> try #freebsdhelp instead of #freebsd
<11> #freebsd is a) not really about freebsd b) full of people many of whom can only charitably called ****wits
<7> Ty man, everybody here is so helpful you can think u were payed for this.
<7> ^^
<12> got a machine that works well with other OSes, but under OpenBSD, it hangs when PCMCIA cards are removed from either slot. where should I look to troubleshoot?
<12> uhm... anyone to help with my question?
<12> got a machine that works well with other OSes, but under OpenBSD, it hangs when PCMCIA cards are removed from either slot. where should I look to troubleshoot?
<13> try varying the gentleness/acertitude of the way you interface the card
<14> baggy1: if this is an i386 laptop, look to the i386 laptop page at www.openbsd.org to see if there are any comments about it there. If not, look to see what kind of cardbus/pcmcia controller you have listed in your dmesg.
<5> define "hanging". if you do it without running X, do you get a kernel panic and a ddb> prompt?
<5> while X is running, a normal kernel panic can look like a "freeze" because you don't see the console. hence, reproduce without X.
<6> ohh don't you know it
<5> if it's truly a kernel freeze, it's hard to debug. just don't eject cards while running :)
<12> jggimi: thanks already looked there, nothing matching my hardware/problem.
<14> k -- then follow dhartmei's advice from here on out.
<12> Espectro: yah, I tried ejecting the cards "gently" doesn't matter, same result
<12> dhartmei: will check the situation sans X, you may have it right.... back in a bit
<5> if you get a ddb> prompt, run 'trace' and note down the output, on a piece of paper, if needed...
<13> i had that same problem installing freebsd on my laptop- w/installation, wouldn't period
<13> i can only offer shared lament help
<13> shared irq cardbus aborted freebsd installation
<13> i just wanted to check it out anyways
<13> no big deal for me
<13> so i was impressed by openbsd installing on it w/ no probs
<12> well, good news and bad news
<12> good new is that it was just X hanging
<12> but
<12> when testing it sans X, things ain't so great either
<12> it doens't hang the machine, but neither PCMCIA port "comes back" i.e., it looks like the bus hangs
<12> or whatever manages the bus
<14> what version of OpenBSD are you running?
<12> any ideas where I should look to troubleshoot that?
<12> 3.9
<14> -release?
<14> -stable? -current?
<12> just a sec
<12> *smacking forehead* how do I find that out?
<11> sysctl kern.version
<14> if you don't *know*, then you're running -release. :)
<11> what does it say?
<12> OpenBSD 3.9 (GENERIC) #617
<12> so that is...?
<11> -release
<12> the stable one or current?
<11> just release
<14> -stable or -current would require action on your part. that is why I'm sure you're running 3.9-release.
<11> if it was stable it would not be at #617
<14> FAQ 5 describes the "flavors" of OpenBSD.
<11> current would probably say -current, plus you would know you had installed it
<11> plus i also know that 3.9-release was #617
<14> for i386, too.
<12> uhm... it was installed via the CD.ISO
<15> OpenBSD 3.9 (GENERIC) #617
<5> you can file a PR (see man send-pr), include your dmesg and any kernel messages related to the eject
<5> people will probably ask you to run a kernel with pcmcia/cardbus debug enabled
<5> and post those additional diagnostics
<12> mkay
<14> in order to run a kernel with those additional diagnostics, you'll need to know how to build a new kernel. Luckily, FAQ 5 will help you.
<5> don't hold your breath. i have laptops where pcmcia doesn't work at all. sometimes you have to live with deficencies ;)
<12> yah, I guess... but that is not exacly an isignificant problem... try to get managment interested in OpenBSD as a viable option, busted PCMCIA will probably fly like a lead balloon _grin_
<5> if you want openbsd as first priority, you choose the hardware suitably
<5> if existing hardware is the first priority, openbsd can't also be first priority
<14> :)
<12> tell that to management who "wants to leverage existing hardware on hand" :-)
<12> yah
<12> anyhoooo
<5> hot-swapping pcmcia, especially if you have multiple ports, isn't really that hot an issue
<5> you only have one wifi card for five employees? :)
<12> both PCMCIA ports hang when you swap cards, so... and again, see the "leverage existing hardware" notion as "we don't want to spend any money"
<12> no biggie
<14> another option is to test with a -current snapshot
<12> thanks for the help anyhow
<14> if your problem has already been fixed, that will tell you.
<14> its less trouble then submitting a problem report and building a custom kernel with pcmcia diagnostics. You just do a fresh install or an "upgrade" and point to a different ftp folder.
<11> the CD or one of the floppies has pcmcia
<12> ahartmei: it is with any PCMCIA card we use not just Wifi.... But only under OpenBSD, not other OSes (Debian Linux, Windows XP PRO SP2)
<11> boot with it and see if you can make it break
<12> thanks jggimi
<14> good idea; you wouldn't even need to do a complete install.
<14> ftp a copy of the "bsd.rd" file from a snapshot, put it in your root folder as "bsd.test" or something, and boot it.
<11> if it doesn't fail, you can go upgrade
<14> the bsd.rd file is a "ramdisk" kernel; its whats used to do the installs and upgrades.
<11> if that still breaks, report it
<11> www.openbsd.org/report.html
<14> at the "install, upgrade or shell" prompt, just select shell.
<14> then you can remove/replace cards with abandon.
<12> yah
<14> ftp://rt.fm/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/i386/bsd.rd should be a nearby i386 ramdisk kernel from a recent snapshot
<12> since 3.9 just came out a little while ago, is there a way to tell what changes are in the recent snapshots?
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