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<0> anyone else finding pkg's real flaky in 3.9
<1> hewwo
<1> i just installed 3.9 and when i logged in
<1> it said vt220 wasent a proper terminal type
<1> i dont have a /usr/share/misc/termcap
<2> it's /etc/termcap, and it does contain a vt220 entry...
<1> dhartmei; ls -l /etc/termcap
<2> then you fscked up the install, didn't install misc39.tgz or such
<1> i didnt install misc. it says its not required
<1> come to think of it
<2> i'm not going to search in which one it is contained and show you how the faq says that one is required
<1> i dont think ive ever installed misc
<2> it's not misc, right
<1> hold on
<1> misc39.tgz - Contains misc info, setup documentation
<1> it doesnt even say recommended ....
<2> tar ztvf base39.tgz | grep termcap
<2> -r--r--r-- 1 root bin 732943 Feb 28 02:12 ./usr/share/misc/termcap
<1> yeah im reinstalling
<1> i think the packages on this cd are borked or somethin the ****
<1> dhartmei; but its not on misc we agree and misc isnt required ;)
<2> yes. but base is required, and it's in base.
<1> hahaha
<3> yo
<4> hi seifried.
<3> I got a mosquito bite
<3> ON THE BOTTOM OF MY FOOT
<3> god hates me
<5> hello all
<6> Head On, applied directly to the forehead, Head On, applied directly to the forehead, Head On, applied directly to the forehead
<7> What is this crap
<7> I don't get it
<8> would anyone mind testing the devel/mercurial update and devel/tailor submissions i sent to ports@ recently?
<8> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-ports&m=115378340424131&w=2 (devel/mercurial)
<8> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-ports&m=115376875713001&w=2 (devel/tailor)
<7> It's the latest thing to do on EFnet
<7> this Head On crap
<8> it's a meme of some sort?
<7> Must be
<7> I don't know it though
<9> Some american pop culture crap I'm sure.
<7> Haha probably
<8> 'meme' may be the most annoying word i've ever heard
<9> lt_kije: you don't need i386 testers right? :)
<8> deanna: i tested both on i386/-current, but they're both python programs so arch shouldn't be a big problem
<8> tailor has a small bit of c
<8> s/tailor/mercurial/, actually
<9> So you don't need me. .)
<8> i'd appreciate any report at all ;)
<8> especially if you have a !CVS SCM in use
<8> (re: tailor)
<8> i've only been able to test tailor on CVS -> Hg
<9> Well since I have no idea what you're talking about.
<8> ogh
<9> I won't bother :)
<8> *oh
<9> I never heard of this.
<8> deanna: much appreciated ;)
<9> :)
<8> you use CVS to manage your code?
<9> & my poems.
<9> But yeah
<10> lt : is 'meme' even more annoying than 'blog'?
<11> what does mercurial do?
<8> rastafinn: excellent question
<9> NicM: It installs python
<9> run away
<8> NicM: it's distributed like SVN, based on a lot of ideas used in git
<11> yeah, but apart from that ;-)
<8> deanna: shush
<11> ah
<9> :D
<10> 'head on' is from a commercial
<11> i don't need another SCM
<8> NicM: it's incredibly fast and efficient in my opinion
<10> i think it's a headache product. it looks like deoderant that you roll onto your forehead.
<8> reduced my CVS repo size significantly
<11> tailor may be interesting, i do work with a guy who uses darcs, translating might be a nice thing
<8> NicM: tailor seems to be the most commonly used translator thingy
<8> most SCM seem to come with homebuilt converter scripts, but tailor tries to convert between just about everything
<10> I was surprised to learn that there were so many SCMs.
<12> tailor seems pretty good for one time conversions
<11> there are a lot of SCMs now
<8> it's not perfect, but it works (at least, CVS with few brances -> Hg)
<8> SmooveB: exactly
<8> rastafinn: and some of them are even useful ;)
<11> SCMs are the flavour du decade
<11> it seems
<8> heh
<8> SCCS++
<12> I'm starting to use svk at work to talk to my upstream svn repository
<11> i just use cvs, it does everything i need. it will be nice if opencvs gets done and gets a cvs mv and cvs rmdir
<8> agreed
<8> Mercurial has functional rename, rm, etc and is distributed
<12> I wish svn didn't depend on so much stuff
<8> i never realized how useful a distributed SCM would be until i started using Hg
<8> SmooveB: only [BR]-depend for mercurial is python ;)
<11> i never used anything aside from CVS, they all seem very complicated or have too many depends
<11> maybe i should **** it up and play with some of them sometime
<12> I like python.
<12> I've used mercurial but only to checkout
<8> SmooveB: me too ;)
<11> my friend is always going on about darcs and he was right about ruby so i should probably listen this time too
<12> I needed to get a copy of planetplanet
<10> svk is the one that just got bought by the RT people, right ?
<12> yes
<10> i found rt very frustrating
<8> rastafinn: RT is very, very frustrating
<12> svk is written by a completely different guy, they just hired him to keep writing it
<7> I hope my Ultra 5 doesn't melt, it's starting to feel like it
<7> hehe
<8> ejk: i'll give you two ultra1s for your u5 ;)
<7> Well I have another spare U5 I'm not using actually
<13> Power outage or something caused a /usr/lost+found to be created. There is one file in there "#0350399". The OS seems to be working ok and fsck is running fine. How do I track down what this file is and the cause for the system crash?
<13> I hate mystery crashes. I am pretty sure that our colo caused this by changing out their UPS.
<2> set up the system to dump a kernel crash, then you'll know for the _next_ crash :)
<2> as for that file, view it with more or hexdump -C, or try file(1)
<2> usually it's a transient file like a mail or log file
<14> It's been quiet in the channel the last couple of days so I'll ask a noob question: What causes all the listings in /var/log/daemon with "... identd[28455]: Connection from localhost.blah.foo.bar"?
<11> sendmail
<11> it connects to your identd when it sends local mail
<14> beautiful. Thankyou.
<14> my little OBSD box does what I ned and rarely gets modified. I just like to poke around it and find things I don't understand to geta better understanding of it
<13> dhartmei it is a 60 meg file. Hexdump did not really help. I can more it and see information. Why is the file so large? Can I delete the lost+found directory? I guess I am trying to figure out normal procedures for lost and found.
<12> lost+found just means that the inode still existed but it wasn't linked to from a filename in a directory
<12> so there it is, maybe something got hashed. more likely it was being deleted when the power went out or whatever.
<12> if you can tell what it is and you don't need it, great.
<13> Well it an ELF 32 bit file that has some ld.so references right at the top...
<13> Am I being ODD again SmooveB?
<13> The only reason I even noticed it was because of daily output telling me it was a setuid addition.
<11> run strings on it
<11> see if it turns up anything recognisable
<13> k
<13> Bunch of sendmail. So the crash must of happened during the daily output. Making more sense now.
<13> Is there any documentation on this subject?
<13> I found some stuff in google but it was crap.
<2> fsck_ffs(8) about lost+found, crash(8) about kernel panics (and kernel core files) in general
<13> Thnx.
<8> deanna: <3 the gopher port
<8> i'll have to take a look at that later ;)
<9> :D
<9> I need to put something in my gopherspace since I have one of the only ones in the world ;)
<8> heh
<8> i think UM still has some gopher stuff up
<9> Yeah I would like to port a daemon but umn is discontinued, and the current one uses... python :-(
<8> deanna: python++
<11> heh
<9> python gopher daemon is just wrong :)
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