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<0> i think qemu is pretty good for what it does
<1> hmm, I actually, I shouldn't be making any judgements about it, cause the only time I really used it was to emulate an x86 on my iBook G4 1GHz
<1> Virtual PC did a MUCH better job
<1> I suppose optimizations did come into play ... and the x86 part of qemu probably a lot better
<1> bah, screw NFS for now, I guess i'll just have to stick to samba for a while
<2> what's the preferred method to mount a CIFS/SMB share? sharity-light?
<0> preferred. heh
<0> you mean "only"
<0> on openbsd
<1> hehe
<0> or are you mounting from OS X?
<0> who was the OS X guy?
<1> OS X has mount_smb
<0> ah yeah, you were
<1> mount_smbfs even*
<1> mond0: I suppose if you need to "mount" it yes, that's the only way on openbsd ... but if you're using GNOME or KDE you their prorpietary VFSs have smb plugins so you can access smb shares from Nautilus/Konqueror
<2> word
<3> yeah, for word, you could try open office... sorry... kidding
<3> :)
<2> hee hee
<2> i've used OOo a bit.. NeoOffice on Mac..
<1> yeah, it works nicely... but just doesn't really cut it when you need to work on documents with other people who use Office :(
<2> which i have the luxury not to have to deal with
<2> though i should give myself some credit, as the reason i don't have to deal with them is because i continually refuse to conform to such ridiculous ways of doing "work".. i feel like any effort spent on creating a Word document is ultimately wasted.. who cares about that format? does anyone enlightened enough to know better have any real use for it? i use flat text for nearly everything, and i can read it everywhere.. why anything else?
<2> and i'll communicate that concept with some tact, over lots of time, and i think most eventually agree, but don't want to rock the boat..
<0> because your customers will go to someone else if you don't?
<0> i find "i'm sorry, i can't accept Word documents because i'm too bloody-minded to use it or too cheap to pay for it" doesn't cut a lot of ice
<0> especially since MS (used to) give it out like candy
<2> everyone can accept them
<2> they provide a reader for free.. and there are alternatives.. i use antiword..
<0> antiword is poor
<2> why?
<0> i find it isn't very effective
<0> anyway, reading isn't the whole problem
<0> sometimes you need to create them too
<0> or I do, anyway
<0> thankfully a lot of people are becoming happier with PDFs recently
<1> yes
<1> that's true
<2> PDF ****s.
<0> i don't know why that is, something must have changed
<2> i think PDF is worse, in ways.
<1> the problem though is I don't only have "create" them, which I can use anything I want, even latex
<2> i'd rather deal with Word.
<0> PDF is far better
<1> the problem is often "collaboration" is required
<0> the only problem is they are not editable
<0> and that some c**ts lock them so you can't c/p
<2> PDF is absolute ****.
<0> just saying it doesn't make it true
<2> who really wants anything in PDF?
<0> me
<4> me?
<2> why?
<4> s/me/us/
<4> mond0: because i can view it?
<2> someone say printing
<2> 101
<0> it's portable
<0> it's easy to deal with
<0> it's compact
<0> it's accurate
<2> i could take the time to refute each of those.
<4> awesome
<2> i can't view a PDF from where i'm sitting right now.
<4> ohnoes!
<4> are you sitting at a computer?
<1> mond0: there is a reason why OS X's graphical backend is based on PDF
<0> i can send PDFs to clients and they can scale them however they like, they can print them at actual size
<2> lt_kije, yes, i'm dealing with some stupid Linux box trying to install an NVIDIA blob.. so i had to init 3 so there's no X available..
<1> mond0: sometimes people have to deal with graphics for which ASCII art isn't adequate...
<2> i'm in 80x25, where i like it.
<4> mond0: pdf -> text, then
<2> i know about it.
<4> or s/nvidia/nv/ in xorg.conf and view it
<2> a..but that one i do have troubles with.
<2> i don't care for the viewer.
<0> what you're really saying is "i don't need PDFs and Word for my job/life so they ****"
<2> anything i've ever seen in PDF would be better to have as like HTML or whatnot.
<0> schematics?
<2> no, i don't like PDF or Word so i don't work for people who force me to use it.
<5> printing html ****s
<2> who the **** cares about printing.
<2> come on
<0> heh
<5> i like paper
<2> i've never printed that i can remember.
<0> everyone who actually has to work with stuff
<6> If it was using html you would have to view it with a browser and all of them basically ****s
<2> it's not only stupid to print, it's environmentally uncool.
<2> you can search a printed document.
<2> can't
<0> but you can make notes and drawing on it
<5> but you can write stuff on it with a pencil, like check off stuff or underline
<2> but they're worthless notes and drawings
<2> unless you want to scan them back into the real world
<5> your bits are not the real world ;)
<0> and also you can read them without sitting upright staring at a horrible screen
<2> i just get uptight about the printing thing because i think that's a terrible reason to use a particular format.. because it prints nice or whatever.. that just seems cuckoo.. printing is obsolete.
<5> paper notes are what you consult when your raid has crashed and the net is down
<0> fires that destroy all the notes on your desk are less common than power cuts/upgrades/reboots that lose all your window positioning and open files
<0> heh
<2> what
<2> never store paper, good god
<2> you people rely on paper?
<4> ...
<2> my apartment could burn to the ground right now.
<2> there's no paper.
<2> none.
<5> yeah, that's why money and p***ports are not made from paper, either
<2> all titles are scanned, deeds, receipts..
<5> that's wanking, seriously
<4> maybe we should move this into #mond0isawesome
<0> i can be working on half a dozen projects simultaneously, paper is just better for work in progress stuff
<2> haha
<2> paper can be destroyed, easily.
<5> you can waste all your time scanning receipts, i put them in a box, done
<2> paper can be stolen.
<2> paper can be lost.
<4> data is unstealable!
<4> and unlosable!
<5> as opposed to bits
<2> paper deteriorates.
<4> data lives in a perfect, abstract world!
<4> hardware never dies!
<2> with proper care, i think the odds are much better when you digitize.
<2> you duplicate.
<2> that's how it remains perpetually.
<0> i digitise important stuff eventually (at work)
<0> i don't bother my arse at home
<0> but everything?
<2> nothing i own digitally is on less than 3 spindles.
<2> like i said, my apartment could burn to the ground (all worldly possessions) and i'd be just fine.. i have secure backups via rsync running constantly to multiple hosts..
<1> accidentally drop a spindle and you could easily lose a third of your data!
<0> meh
<2> but i have 2 to regenerate from
<2> and i've had to do just that
<0> if my house burns to the ground i shall have bigger problems than what happened to my porn collection
<2> don't save porn, weirdo!
<5> yeah, like all those legal documents, scans of which are completely useless because not legally valid...
<2> well any of that stuff needs to be re-issued or whatever anyways
<2> at least i have a duplicate to work from to get that done
<5> "please re-issue my contract with you, i lost the paper" "good to know, contract cancelled!"
<2> i have no such contract.
<5> rent lease, work contract?
<2> so my rent lease burns.. big deal?
<5> you have no contract anymore, evil landlord calls police, has you removed the next day
<2> that's fine.
<2> heh
<5> "oh, but i have this PICTURE of the contract"
<0> do you scan in all your books too? ;-)
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