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<0> im trying to setup openbgp and openvpn. I'm just trying to announce one subnet but it keeps routing it to the ip on the local interface
<1> hi all
<0> http://paste.lisp.org/display/21495
<0> any ideas?
<1> what is a decent way to reload the pf rules (pf.conf)?
<2> pfctl(8)
<1> without rebooting and just clearing all the current connections
<1> lt_kije: read it already
<2> great
<1> pfctl -F all ?
<2> that would flush all your rules
<2> (and tables and other stuff)
<1> yeah...I only tweaked some filter rules
<1> so that would make -F rules a better option
<3> no
<3> you do not need to flush anything
<3> just reload the ruleset
<3> why people always think they must go around flushing things I don't know
<4> because we instinctively think it gets rid of poop ?
<5> mmm, poop
<5> uh, wait
<5> i didn't really type that
<5> you're all just imagining things
<1> NicM: :-)
<6> http://www.onlamp.com/lpt/a/6029 < openbsd livecd howto
<6> but whats the purpose of /livecd/backups/etc
<6> or the backups dir at all
<7> could simply exist as a mount point for writeable storage
<6> uux; no read through it.
<6> uux; and its a livecd, your not gonna write to it ...
<7> duh
<7> MOUNT POINT
<6> READ it
<6> its populated
<7> *shrug* ask the author then
<6> /livecd/etc/rc and /livecd/backups/etc/rc (same for fstab) are different
<6> but why i wanna know
<6> uux; i was just asking, no need to throw me an _obvious_ but unneeded retard answer
<7> i doubt anyone here would presume to know what the author was thinking
<7> but i can see why having the directory exist for a mount point would be useful
<6> uux; so would i, but thats not why its there
<7> you can mount over populated directories. but again, i don't presume to know what the author intended. could simply be an oversight
<6> uux; and again by reading it the author gives the view as it being used, but i dont see how
<7> looks like it creates mfs partitions and populates them with what exists in /livecd/backups
<6> ahh now i see
<6> and openbsd doesnt have unionfs
<6> so it does the spiffy magic
<8> Is it expected/accepted that, say, an i386 manpage would .Xr some other page that doesn't exist for that arch?
<9> It may mean the other manpage needs to be written.
<8> nope, they are arch-specific
<7> the man pages for every arch should be installed. just have to specify the arch sometimes. man -S arch whatever
<8> they exist
<8> right, that worked, uux
<8> how would a luser know that, though =)
<7> i know. it's a bit awkward
<8> some man env variable that searches all archs...
<8> MACHINE=all =)
<9> hi beepbeep
<8> Well the clumsy part is reading a manpage, seeing the cross-reference, and then getting a "no entry for.."
<10> Does openbsd.org have a listing of all vulnerabilities found for each release of obsd? I'm not having much luck searching google for it.
<3> vuxml
<9> pixil, I don't think they make that info public... they fix the vulnerabilities silently.
<3> oh, for openbsd base system
<3> no, aside from the list of patches
<10> Hmm. I seem to remember specifically reading a page like that because it had identified a sendmail flaw in the 3.9 release like the same day of the release.
<3> you can probably safely ***ume all vulnerabilities get a patch
<10> Where do they show their patches?
<3> where do you think?
<3> no, the sendmail flaw was discovered about 2 months before release
<8> http://www.openbsd.org/errata.html ...
<10> I'm 0.1% familiar with obsd. This is a cl*** project.
<10> Oh
<10> I was familiar with that. :-(
<10> Thanks. :-)
<3> the sendmail flaw was discovered before release but after 3.9 was tagged and the CDs made, so a patch was released
<11> is there any package that is an alternative to procmeter for openbsd?
<3> it would help if you told us what procmeter was
<12> is it possible to install subversion from ports without having to install python and tk
<8> use opencvs, gosh
<12> well we nah want cvs at work
<13> lol
<12> or. they dont want cvs at work
<3> if you install the standard package it does not depend on pythin iirc
<8> well look at the svn source and readme and see what it says, it probably depends on that stuff in all cases
<3> it only needs python if you install the python bindings
<14> klippo: investigate ports flavors
<3> build it with flavor no_bindings
<12> i just did make install, and it wants python. and python wants tk etc etc
<14> if you're using ports, you should be somewhat sufficient
<14> if you can't do that, use packages.
<14> they're for morons who can't figure out how to use ports and people who are smart enough to know that they are easier to use
<14> ports are for developers
<8> hey is there a header file or something that lists all archs?
<15> plat.html
<8> k. #include <plat.html> ;)
<15> oh, hmm, dunno
<15> I did not take you literally
<8> :)
<16> hello humans
<4> by arch, do you mean 'arch -s' output or /usr/bin/machine output ?
<8> machine
<17> So whats the best way to fix this problem using pf+altq, home cable modem 6mbit-d/l 384k-u/l, have vonage phone service, play WoW, wife downloads using P2P, want to prioritize tcp acks, want to prioritize vonage traffic, want to give WoW computer good patch downloads and low latency... handle game traffic quickly and give it priority, and have bulk downloads/browsing faster on wow computer than any other on the lan, also want to limit that wife P2P traffic down a
<15> google? :)
<17> wondering if someone happened to possibly have a similiar setup already
<8> baron: well the same program does both those options eh
<8> it's just a matter of args i think.. they're the same program
<4> arch -sk == machine
<8> [/usr/src] poa-alpina% ls -i /usr/bin/machine
<8> 185480 -r-xr-xr-x 2 root bin 5604 Jun 11 15:29 /usr/bin/machine*
<8> [/usr/src] poa-alpina% ls -i /usr/bin/arch
<8> 185480 -r-xr-xr-x 2 root bin 5604 Jun 11 15:29 /usr/bin/arch*
<8> noisy, sorry :)
<8> anyway I can't find my list of all of them :)
<4> grep -ri macppc /usr/include on i386 gives nothing, so I'd guess ls -1 /sys/arch | grep -v CVS is the simplest
<8> can't put that in a c program :)
<4> system()
<4> or, opendir() /sys/arch
<18> deanna: Why would you want a list of OpenBSD archs? Is there no other way to accomplish what you want?
<8> Secret
<8> ;)
<8> I'm really new to c, but that seems wrong and ugly to me, heh
<18> It is...
<18> It's better to add the archs on your own
<18> You'd had to update at most twice a year :)
<8> then it has to be updated every time
<8> yeah that's ugly and wrong too :D
<8> I think there must be a real way, I'll keep looking
<18> I doubt there is, from outside /usr/src, that is
<8> create archs.h then :)
<8> just for this one silly thing. no, there has to be a way
<18> it's not the most common thing to do...
<18> In fact, it's rather odd :)
<8> :)
<8> I think the way to do it is in the program I'm trying to mangle
<18> mkay
<15> #include <plat.html>
<3> i do not thing there is an elegant way to do what you want
<3> think
<3> put them in a config file or Makefile option
<8> Insightful as always, NicM
<3> i try
<11> NicM: procmeter can monitore load, mem, disk, networks, etc in one app, is there and equivalent for openbsd?
<11> anyone else know of a tool that will do this in openbsd?
<8> systat
<11> how about graphically in X?
<8> xterm
<8> systat
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