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<0> hello
<1> ello
<0> ok i have a quick question :) ... if i use ifconfig ath0 in Openbsd, the first line says something like: flags 8863(?) <lots of flags> mtu=1500
<0> and one of those flags is NOTRAILERS
<0> and i can't find how to remove that
<0> becuase my wireless card doesnt work in openbsd but it does in FreeBSD and that's the only difference i can find between the two
<1> snhmib: besides the different kernels and operating systems?
<1> is your card supposed to be supported in OpenBSD?
<0> well, yea
<0> yes
<1> what card?
<0> linksys wmp55ag
<1> what revision?
<0> ?
<1> what chipset revision?
<1> vendors change chipsets all the time



<0> you mean 5125 number stuff?
<2> dmesg stuff
<1> jup
<0> Atherps 5212
<0> Atheros*
<0> that's what uou mean right?
<1> snhmib: dmesg | grep ath would be useful
<0> i did that, under FreeBSD it says ath0: <Atheros 5212> and after that it gives memory stuff and irqs and ethernet stuff
<1> that doesn't help
<1> without a dmesg from OpenBSD, there isn't much we can do
<0> ok, i'll be back in a few minutes then
<3> ok, under openbsd it says: ath0 at pci1 dev 5 function 1 "Atheros AR5212" rev 0x01
<3> rev is the revision?
<4> are you sure you are setting it all up properly?
<4> it is much more likely to be a config error than the fact openbsd's default options differ from freebsds
<3> i think i'm doing it correctly...
<4> well, reread man ath and make very sure
<4> there are no weird errors or messages about it in dmesg, right?
<3> nope
<3> well, i just give it an ip a netmask and the nwid
<3> same like i do under freebsd
<3> but then under freebsd if i type ifconfig ath0 scan it gives "Middendorp" under ssid and then i can use dhclient, but under OpenBSD that doesnt work and i don't know why not
<5> probably because there isn't a 'scan' option. :)
<3> ifconfig -M ath0 ?
<5> Yeah that's it.
<5> You don't see it?
<3> well the output looks kinda mangled, but i think it sees 2 networks, but it doesnt display the network id, but something like this 00:0e:0stuf options
<3> under FBSD it says the same 00:0e;stuff but when i do ifconfig ath0 ssid networkname after about 30 seconds or so if i do a scan again, 1 of those 00;0241 stuff things has changed to the network name
<3> and then dhcp works
<3> but under OBSD it doesnt, and now i'm confused
<5> unconfigure it and just type dhclient ath0 ;)
<5> i think you're overcomplicating it.
<3> no because then it does dhcp for a while and then complains it doesn
<3> 't work
<3> also, is it weird that i send ethernet stuff over a wireless lan?
<2> how else would you send data over wireless ethernet if not as "ethernet stuff"?
<3> wireless stuff, i'm not really sure :)
<3> but about my original question, what does the NOTRAILERS option under flags in ifconfig mean? i can't find that
<6> Hey there
<6> is there any openbgpd related book ?
<6> or document or smt ?
<6> except the man pages ?
<2> nope
<6> i see
<7> look on amazon.com
<7> thee's acouple i think
<7> though not encomp***ing and definitive like the freebsd one
<7> lots of condensed manpages or something
<7> there's the secure architectures one
<7> and some other one
<7> maybe the freebsd one doesn't encomp*** al the manpages
<7> but it's supposed to be pretty good
<7> the other one i saw seemed l;ike the freebsd handbook, but it was just 1 guy doing it
<7> freebsd handbook has a few more minds involved i think
<4> he wants openbgpd not openbsd
<0> hello
<0> i'm (still) having trouble making internet work on OpenBSD, there's some info here:
<0> http://www.bsdforums.org/forums/showthread.php?t=33324
<0> is it normal that ifconfig -M gives a slightly different output depending on if i set the nwid or bssid with ifconfig?
<0> in the scan-part of the output i mean, not in the card-stuff-output
<0> anyone?



<0> why's everyone ignoring me
<0> including my wireless network :/
<7> what drive is it using?
<7> driver?
<0> atheros
<7> should work then
<7> i just set mine dhcp and it works
<7> not to flaunt, jest saying
<7> it can work
<0> heh
<7> that is more supported than my atmel
<7> ir study up on ifconfig and/or your driver commands
<0> cool thanks!
<7> np
<7> glad to help w/ general advice
<7> i forget specifics
<0> maybe litle bit more info: network looks like this: internet <--> router (nat+dns->i'm not sure what dns does my dad set network up) <--> AP <--> my computer
<8> my ath won't work either
<8> ar512/3?
<7> set dhcp to the router or something
<7> the cable modem, whatever
<7> if it has it
<0> oh ok
<0> i'm not sure which of the 2 does dhcp (router or AP), i'll ask my dad when he wakes up tomorrow
<0> thanks for suggestion :)
<0> quants: ar5212
<0> stupid wireless networking, first i have a cards that isnt supported and now i have one that is and it still doesnt work! :(
<7> i still have to set up pf.conf one of these days
<8> snhmib: I have three of these cards
<0> they all don't work??
<8> one AR5212
<8> two AR5213
<8> yup
<0> uh-oh
<8> I was planning on a 108Mbit AP
<8> neither a/g work at all
<0> oh yea atheros has special mode for that right?
<8> nope
<8> it's dumb like users
<8> no, the drivers just don't work
<8> I put my old ralink back in, and bang it all came right back up again
<8> Damien Bergamini is also a nice guy
<8> he wrote them
<9> hey there
<9> i got a problem
<9> everyting is in caps
<9> no matter what
<9> i can't login or nothing
<9> ROOT
<9> isn't a valid username
<10> ctrl-alt F2
<9> thanks
<9> heh
<9> that simple
<9> thank you
<10> then kill that getty
<9> ok
<9> that i don't know how todo
<9> but i can figure out, have a good night.
<10> ps ax |grep getty look for ttyC0 ..then kill the pid
<10> ok night
<9> got it, perfect.
<4> you can kill it with ^D
<4> you don't need to do it manually
<4> just hit ^D a coupla times 'til you get a new getty
<4> well, ^D and enter
<10> ooh ok
<10> thanks NicM
<10> and then you die
<4> you do?
<4> personally, i intend to live forever or die in the attempt
<10> lol
<11> it's a plan
<4> thanks


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