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<0> dhartmei: it's illegal to murder, prolly more so for the president
<0> but i suspect the UN would be quite amused by watching us start w/ our own guy
<1> lo all
<2> wow this place is quiet
<3> echo "PING"
<4> echo "PONG"
<3> hnm
<3> seems to be working ;)
<2> heh
<2> life \o.
<3> unclogged_drain++
<2> ahh..super mario in town i see ;)



<3> heh
<3> <--- super mario, then
<2> ahh lo... haven't seen you in years... not since SNES
<3> been getting into open source stuff, mostly
<3> (luigi's into FreeBSD)
<2> ah phew... due to the quietness in here, i thought perhaps this place had nothing to do with the os
<3> oh, it does
<2> but a healthy use of "heh" has proved me otherwise
<3> we just answered everyone's questions yesterday
<2> wow..efficient
<2> lo hky
<3> #openbsd on freenode is more active, though if you ask a question you'll get help in about the same time here as there
<2> ah hehe
<5> sup ?
<2> i did have a question when i joined
<2> ...but i'd need to remember what it was
<3> <3 Marcus Watts
<3> he's a sharp guy
<2> sounds dangerous
<2> hhmm... how well do you think binaries compiled in VMware will cope on a native openbsd build?
<6> er
<6> they should be identical
<2> i was hoping as much... i'm still getting used to Vmware, so i didn;t know if it would do anything silly and bork it
<6> it shouldn't
<2> cool... after reading some stuff, i was thinking about removing gcc etc
<2> and gdb
<6> why?
<6> you should avoid reading stuff that says that
<2> na, i didn't read that, it a thought on my part
<2> just reading up on exploits n stuff
<6> well, how would removing the compiler help?
<2> arse...they could of course always scp binaries compile else where to that machine
<2> compiled*
<3> morning, NicM
<3> s/^/good/, i guess
<2> what i was reading on exploits uses gcc and gdb quite a lot for either writing the exploit, or at least getting details of memory addresses of various things. perl is also used for injecting shellcode
<6> hi lt_kije
<6> zeroXten, yes, they can always build elsewhere and upload
<3> zeroXten: you're worried about attackers examining your binaries for weaknesses?
<3> that's hard to defend against (moreover, they could just copy your binaries over to one of their machines...)
<2> na, i was just kinda working on them building custom exploits for something
<2> yeah lt_kije
<2> its a shame that scp uses ssh
<3> ?
<3> removing scp wouldn't do you any good, anyway
<2> nm.. me beind stupid
<2> there is always a way =(



<3> tar czf - DIR | ssh you@host 'tar xzf -'
<2> etc
<2> ;)
<2> rah..so it all boils down to protecting my ssh
<3> it boils down to reducing the amount of services you provide and auditing those services as best you can ;)
<2> in this case, publicly only ssh will be open
<2> it'll be for playing with stuff on the lan
<7> hello
<2> lo
<7> i have a soundcard reported error with blue background in console, is it considered as important in kernel development ?
<8> Might be...depends on the error
<7> auvia0: codec invalid
<8> Doesn't sound too bad, but I don't know
<7> i posted on misc@ but it seems noone complains about this kind of error ... just 2 posts on the web :)
<8> Let the proper list know about it :)
<8> Ok
<8> Just hang on...someone will probably pick it up
<7> mpg123 works perfectly, XMMS and mplayer trigger this error
<7> aren't they fast enough for the soundcard codec ?
<7> i looked over the source code, only one function triggers this error, it something like auvia_wait_valid_codec()
<7> but i don't know why
<8> It was a pretty good bug report you had there...I think you should just sit back and wait
<8> Unless you feel like fixing it yourself :)
<7> ok, i posted another one 6 months ago and nothing yer
<7> in the meantime i try to obtain an old pci soundcard :)
<8> Could be that no devels have a card like that
<8> Or that none of them are interested in via audio :)
<7> yeah, it is an onboard one
<7> anyway, the soundcard is not a central point for an OS development
<8> Not really, no :)
<7> the strange fact is i found some dmesgs on the web with the same hardware, but no complains about sound , so i thought it must be a rare case combination on my pc
<8> Might be...
<8> Good luck
<7> thanks
<9> USERS
<10> i have an ultrasparc1 running -current connected to a i386 also running current
<10> i can connect from the i386 -> sparc using cu just fine
<10> i can't connect from the sparc -> i386, though
<11> on i386 you need to mod /etc/ttys
<10> i'm using 9600 as the speed (from both ends)
<10> Slip: i believe i did so, and restarted init
<10> (though i can't verify that since i've lost ssh access due to PEBKAC)
<7> cmdr_kije, i did this http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq7.html#SerCon and it was ok
<7> is the old XFree86 still alive ? is it shipped in linux distributions ?
<12> Gentoo has moved to Xorg, ubuntu had it in unstable a while back, so they've probably moved, and i'm pretty sure fedora and novell's distro have either changed or are going to next release
<13> pppZero: what does that have to do with OpenBSD?
<13> oh, he asked.
<12> lol :)
<13> everybody's moving. xfree86 shat on their license.
<12> and its getting *pretty* eyecandy now too -- my 14 yo cousin loves the wobbly windows heh
<14> and i'm also wondering, since strangers with candy movie has been out for so long, why is it posted nowhere?
<14> mischannel
<14> sorry
<7> seeing this, it looks like XFree86 will be just a hobby for a few folks, am i right ?
<7> i wonder how easy is to destroy the audience by playing with licence - that was the ipf case i think


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