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<0> anybody managed to get ipsec working btw a windows host to openbsd host
<0> nvm
<1> op *
<1> never mind, wrong window
<2> is there a list of supported sound cards someplace?
<3> click on Hardware Platsforms
<3> (on the site...)
<3> it is also mentioned in the faq - 4.2 pre-installation checklist
<2> thanks much
<2> also, can anyone offer suggestions as to a solution to getting opera and firefox working?
<2> there's a single command that'll do it but I don't remember it nor have the log
<2> hmmm... says this isa sound blaster is supported.... wonder why it isn't working
<2> dammit, and I don't know enuf to fix it =\
<2> anyone willing to spend an extended amount of time would be helpful ;)
<2> I don't need the services daytime and time running do I?
<1> no



<2> is time like time.nist.gov?
<4> it's your machine's time, if another machine is interested
<2> ah, that was my other thought
<2> thanks =)
<2> I just HUP inetd, right?
<2> dunno why I'm asking, I should know this
<4> yep.. when in doubt, test
<2> also, what are these:
<2> 127.0.0.1:comsat dgram udp wait root /usr/libexec/comsat comsat
<2> [::1]:comsat dgram udp6 wait root /usr/libexec/comsat comsat
<1> man comsat
<2> kk
<2> ah, ok, cool, thanks guys =)
<1> most of the inetd services are old, and a rule of thumb is that if you don't know what they do, you don't need them
<2> how do I tell if a device is disabled in config?
<2> when I do a find I mean
<2> anyone?
<2> how do I run a command in a script as a different user?
<2> without asking for a p***word?
<2> n/m =)
<2> perfect
<3> n0cturn: about getting soundcard working, faq 13 http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq13.html and getting firefox running is just about adding the package and run the file
<3> described in faq 15 http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq15.html
<2> no, that isn't all firefox needed
<2> firefox was installed
<3> then type firefox
<2> and for the snd card I need to recompile the kernel
<2> ff was giving an error, operation not permitted... fixed it last night
<2> I'm WAY ahead of you this time ;)
<3> isn't the soundcard supported by default?
<3> i was just trying to help
<2> it's an isapnp card
<2> I appreceate the help, I really do
<3> ok, did you recompile the kernel then
<2> just that for once, I figured stuff out
<3> nice
<2> no, I don't feel capable of doing that yet
<2> I don't know enuf
<2> too noobish
<3> it is a faq for that too
<2> alrewady got one
<2> bookmarked
<3> yeah The faq on The site explains everything you need
<2> oh
<2> using config, can I enable the isapnp module(driver, whatever?)
<3> read section 5.9
<2> yeah yeah, man this, faq that ;) I just hadn't gotten far enuf to find that section yet
<2> thanks
<3> i don't think anyone in here can explain what is included in section 5 better than if you read it yourself
<2> hmm... just from a glance, I don't see where it says how to tell if something is disabled or not in the list or find results
<2> hmmm....
<2> is there a way to undo the changes I've made (I ***ume at boot) incase I screw this up?
<2> n/m, they are already enabled... now I get to figure out why it won't detect either of the two cards
<3> sorry, bbl playing texas
<2> ok =)
<2> whats the difference between sb and sb0?
<5> sb0 is the first sb
<2> ok, thought so
<2> crap, I don't wanna reboot to swap cards and check the boot log to figure out why this card won't work
<3> n0cturn: what happens when you try to run firefox?
<2> well now it's fixed, but I was getting an operation not permitted error, and no it wasn't permissions



<2> same error with opera
<2> want the fix
<2> ?
<3> strange how did you install it
<2> it worked when I installed... untill I rebooted
<5> did you put the sysctl in /etc/sysctl.conf?
<2> I hafta put a command in each boot as root for them to work
<5> what command?
<2> no
<2> sec
<2> sysctl kern.emul.linux=1
<5> yes
<2> hehe
<5> you don't need to do that
<5> read man sysctl.conf
<5> and that only effects linux binaries like opera
<5> it shouldn't affect native firefox
<5> unless you're trying to run linux firefox
<2> dunno, don't really care bout ff, I prefer opera ;)
<5> well, yes, so do i, but you were talking about firefox
<2> as an example to the problem
<5> but firefox isn't affected by kern.emul.linux, so it wasn't the same problem
<5> anyway, edit sysctl.conf and you don't need to run that manually
<3> i'll get my first laptop today (yippie!:), do you think opera consumes less power than firefox? with linux emulation and all..
<2> I have it running from a script in kde's auto start dir
<5> not much use if you want to run another linux binary before opera
<5> anyway, do it how you like, but the proper way is sysctl.conf
<2> I will add that to my todo list, thank you much =)
<6> It probably will take u longer to add it to a todolist than change it in sysctl.conf though :)
<2> I'm on the phone is the problem
<2> yeah, I prolly shoulda just uncommented it instead of putting it on my list
<7> Hm.. This is the second time my obsd box stops accepting new connection
<7> All services running on it continues as before
<8> Hello all, I have problem with /dev/srandom and entropy
<8> need "elegant" solution...
<8> who can help me?
<5> what is the problem?
<8> SSH block on reading /dev/srandom, when wants to re-gen keys...
<8> actually the main problem is: entropy insufficiency
<2> not enuf death for you eh?
<5> what OS?
<8> OpenBSD
<5> i didn't think ssh used /dev/srandom on openbsd
<8> OpenBSD 4.0
<5> where are you getting the idea of /dev/srandom from?
<8> I guess, that some library (probably libcrypto) uses "/dev/srandom" for random number generation
<5> how does /dev/srandom relate to your problem?
<5> what is happening?
<5> what are you doing and what messages are you getting?
<5> rather than making guesses
<8> ok...
<8> I get no error/info/other uncommon messages, the system runs well..
<5> but?
<8> "/dev/srandom" stands for strong random number generation
<8> encryption algorithms used by SSH use "/dev/srandom" to generate keys
<5> what is the problem?
<8> the problem is that software blocks when reading from "/dev/srandom"
<5> your software or ssh?
<8> ssh I mean...
<5> how do you know it is blocking reading /dev/srandom?
<5> which part of ssh? ssh, sshd, ssh-keygen?
<8> e.g. moving a mouse or pressing some keys on a keyboard "adds entropy" and thus unblocks the ssh
<8> sshd
<5> so you are sshing into the box
<5> and then what happens?
<8> when I try to access my box from remote host, nothing happens...
<8> em...
<8> I understand that You want to see the WHOLE situation..
<8> but I have already localized the problem...
<5> if it really is blocking on srandom, which i find slightly unlikely
<5> the only way to fix it is is use urandom instead
<5> or generate more entropy
<8> yea...
<8> how...


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