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<0> but that is the fault of 2 sides... the exploitative bankers, AND the crap govts in those countries
<1> kosh, there is an unending cycle of taxation in africa
<2> its not a body, its not arms and legs an color
<2> that just happens by way of your parents
<2> nothign more, nothing less
<0> in that respect, the west/US/UN/IMF etc, is like an alcoholic enabler
<1> haha "alcoholic enabler"
<1> i like that
<0> you let the alcoholic keep going with the fund$
<2> zip... do you have any religious beliefs?
<0> we are propping up the oppressive govts/ military warlord whoever
<2> im just curious to what your view on your body is
<2> in my mind... my body is aboslutely nothign
<0> in somalia they used food as a weapon
<2> its jsut a thing much like "riznat" is just an online name
<1> right
<0> feed their own troops
<2> a representation
<0> so if somalians were starving the first place to turn was their own govt/strongmen
<0> but we all watched "live aid" and felt bad and demanded our govt "do something"
<1> riz, i keep my body strong as hell, i eat vitamins every morning, i only drink milk, water, and beer, and i ensure a protein intake of at least 100 grams per dar
<1> day
<0> so more $ and food was sent to be confiscated and wasted
<0> and the ppl still starved
<1> oh man "live aid" / "live 8" ...
<0> i do similar , healthwise
<1> what a failure
<2> zip
<2> what does that have to do with anything
<0> of course, it's govt project, bound to fail
<2> you know inevitably, your body dies
<1> kosh your outlook on the provisions is true for some, but not many or most
<2> its the obviously human flaw (physically)
<2> that even strengthns my view that its just a representation
<0> what provisions?
<2> sure there is more too it
<1> take rhodesia/zimbabwe for example
<2> like your personality might make you want to lok better or take care of yourself
<2> but taking care of yoruself doenst give you eternal life or ehatever
<1> provision, as in the act of supplying things
<2> which obviosly someoen who wants to be healthy is doing so to prolong life
<1> from the root, provide
<0> i have many ethiopian friends who claim they are being killed off and subjected to rape etc by muslims (they are christian)
<2> hell you can even get plastic surgery and not have to deal with trying to physically look well...
<2> but nothing changes the fact that the body dies
<1> riz: i am completely at ease with the fact that my body will die
<1> i want to make the most of it here and now
<0> it was a, say, 60 or 70% christian country 10 yrs ago, but within 10 yrs will be majority muslim
<2> i was just curious as to what you thoughto f your body
<2> if you thought it was your entire being
<1> i hold my body in a very high regard
<2> or a representation of your "soul" or whatever leable ect
<2> do you think yoru more than your body
<2> is what im getting at
<0> however it could be said that muslims everywhere are riled up against anything western (christian) ever more so
<0> because of our past actions
<1> i think that the human mind is capable of amazing things and i cultivate such opportunities
<2> that doenst answer anything heh
<2> i gues its a pretty dpee ?
<2> deep
<2> other than your body
<2> do you believe your anything else?
<2> your mind being your body
<0> i know what provisions are and the grammar and etymology of the word, but you said the outlook was true for some, not for most
<2> meaning... what do you think happends when you die
<2> is that it?
<2> you lived healthy, maybe you lived longer than the average man
<2> but now your dea?
<2> ... is that all?
<1> i'd like to address both of you, riz, and kosh
<0> which provisions? the u.n. giving aid to somalia? or the $ given to most 3rd-world nations by IMF and World Bank
<1> kosh, let me consider our conversation and i will get back to you
<0> the $ are often to perform certain projects
<1> well, africa is made up of several countries, each sporting their own debt schedule
<2> heh sorry zip, i realize we are bothing asking deep ?s at the same time
<1> ... and tax schedule
<2> from differnet ends of th spectrum
<0> i believe taxes should be as low as possible and as local as possible
<1> well, riz, i am somewhat of a hobbyist writer and i have written some p***ages about certain religious and philosophical matters
<1> i am pleased to discuss this
<0> are you also canadian zip?
<1> kosh african debt is perpetual in certain natures due to the taxes overwhelming the cost of operating
<1> yes
<2> canadian living in TX
<0> hence the interest in hockey
<1> :P
<2> hey im a californian with an interest in hockey
<2> and all things cold weahter!
<1> i just hope we don't have to call them the chokelers this post season
<2> explain that one
<0> also when you say african debt are you referring to the national debts owed to the west, or the people's debt owed to their governments, local or national?
<0> you're a mutant riz
<0> bad genes or bad upbringing
<0> you're "un-american"
<2> haha so true (mutant)
<2> everywhere ive gone ive been caled weid :P
<2> weird
<2> time for iraq/iran right? :P
<2> lets go kosh, you share the vision
<1> largely national debt, for this reason: legitimate governments in africa cannot sustain legitimacy without being able to pay back debt. to do so they raise taxes to the point that businesses cannot operate in their countries - including western businesses. thus the cycle continues.
<0> a guy who stays up til 4:30 am discussing hockey and deep philosophical issues is definitely a mutant
<0> aha
<2> well you hav ea problem kosh
<0> absolutely... this is the mistake of many govts'
<2> its only 127 here
<2> and im single
<0> yeah i know
<2> you have a wife... and orlando! :P
<0> but i'm currently between contracts
<2> however.. i hate it here
<0> eupehmism for "unempolyed"
<2> very very very expensive
<2> i hate the weather
<0> and my wife's last teaching day was today
<0> so she's free for the summer
<2> basically... im a roamer type person
<0> so, see, no prob
<2> obviously as we have had discussion on learning arabic :P
<1> right so this is a problem even in south america, but north american companies have found ways to basically change the way certain governments operate and bam! western business is quite viable in south america.
<2> i dont think your typical barfly Los angeles kid would have the same outlook
<0> you asked, arabic or farsi?
<2> yes
<2> iraq/iran...whichw ill have the greatest impact on my lifetime
<0> well if you want to work for halliburton as a "consultant" perhaps farsi if iran is next
<2> im going with arabic, it feels more... at home
<1> africa exhibits a different, though similar, although still somewhat disconnected (because of the circle I'm describing) culture so that a perpetual loss of business is inevitable
<2> at least more "at home"... if you can call it that, than iran
<0> iraq is a done deal
<0> no more profit
<2> i dont want profit
<2> that country is going to be having majore troubles for my entire lifetiem
<0> well do you want to just go and be a missionary or soemthing?
<1> koshka hehe what do you know about halliburton consultants, if i may?
<0> or run a bar or something?
<2> i dont know heh koshka, i just dont know
<2> no no no
<2> i dont need to live there for my lifetime
<0> not a hell of a lot, riz, but ...
<2> i dont kjnow what im looking for :P
<2> i just.. well i want to do something meaningful like most people do
<2> and i have been fascianted with iraq for whatever eason
<3> rizle
<2> so i should pursue
<2> it
<2> stf jay, im not in the mood of ryou bs
<1> "most people" don't do meaningful things
<0> well, i believe in what many would call "consipiracies"
<2> ! :P
<1> ever
<3> i got a song for ya
<4> jayoanise is ghey
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