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<0> of course not shadow
<0> that doesnt mean you cant learn from it
<1> it's the new world order
<2> who cares? just relax. 9/11 isn't **** compared to the real history of the world - including and perhaps especially the whole Jerusalem ordeal
<0> or at least read it subjectvily
<0> sure it is zipdot
<0> it might not be to us
<0> becaue its our time
<0> but in the future?>
<1> 9/11 is the new pearl harbor
<0> we have NO idea
<2> history is always hidden? **** you, that's another shortcut to thinking
<0> what will be taught as the meat of our lifetime
<1> what do you mean by the jerusalem ordeal?
<0> we have no cluse what future teachers will claim to be our most life changing event
<1> it will be what media tells them
<2> oh yeah riz 3000 people die and we're all ****ed up about it. world war 2 was over, once america was involved, in 2 years. 6 million innocants were killed there.
<0> 911 might be forgotten.. 911 might be the most important event for the nexzt 50 years by a teach 100 years from now
<2> this ****? 5 years it has been
<2> over 3000 people
<2> and our freedoms have arguable eroded
<0> we have no idea, just liek the people form the past had no idea what would be news/history
<1> 6 million jews or 6 million overall?
<2> jews
<1> i'm not one of the revisionists, but most scholars agree it wasnt' nearly that
<2> NSA **** of late has shown that we've been spied upon
<1> although many will not promote the fact
<2> well, who knows, i don't, i'm not from here anyways
<1> NSA has been doing it for 20+ years
<3> canadian history stopped, we blended in with america
<1> it's not bush
<0> spied upon
<0> im not saying its ok... but
<0> like wtf do i care
<2> point being, this 9/11 **** is *******
<0> if someoen heard my cell phone converstaion about farts
<0> to my friend
<0> its not **** ***
<0> its simply our time
<2> bah
<0> nothing seems that historic while it happends
<0> NOTYHING
<1> the 9/11 **** *** is important because of what it is permitting as an excuse over
<2> live in israel for a week
<0> im not saying in 100 years peopel will talk about 911 specifially
<0> but like what koshka said
<0> its everythign lumpe dtoghet
<1> patriot act, endless war on terror, government jack boots in your business
<0> its 25 years lumped together
<2> kosh i agree with that, and that is my point
<0> all the causes and effects
<1> all to "keep us safe"
<0> and certainly 911 will be a big part of that
<2> but in comparison to **** that matters... elsewhere... historically... in general, it's a giant PR campaign
<0> we dont need to live in israel to learn about "life"
<2> motives be damned
<0> we are , well i am an american
<0> and this is my life
<1> but a lot of what is happening was well underway for many decades
<0> its just as important as anyone elses
<2> you're half right, riz
<1> they needed the "pearl harbor" for the populace to accept some more drastic things
<1> do you think ppl would have permitted govt library book spying 40 yrs ago?
<0> i know im "wrong"
<0> but i just could care less about that
<3> library book spying?
<2> if your life was just as important as anyone else then you would give a **** about { a dozen countries where human rights have been ********ed upon lately >
<0> i dont do stuff tha tim worried about...
<0> and had i talked about growing weed or something, i still dont believe they would even car
<1> **** like that
<0> they want hardcore terrorists or whatever and like i said
<1> zip- actually we do
<1> this is a global issue
<2> WE?
<0> im not aying im not "Way wrong" but its jsjut not somethign im scared of
<0> or worreida bout
<1> a global campaign
<2> who is WE?
<1> i do
<1> and many others like me
<2> and me
<3> israel is fighting itself
<2> not money
<0> so zip
<2> not american money
<0> your telling me, because my life isnt a **** hole
<0> its not as important as someoen elses?
<2> have you seen Hotel Rwanda?
<2> riz? no
<0> a human is a human
<4> d.cheadle
<2> yes
<0> yoru making it sound like becaue im not at constant risk of starvation or gun fight
<0> then i dont count
<1> yes and the tens of 1,000s we are killing over there count
<0> yes they do
<1> maybe we act as if they don't because our media ignore them but
<1> but i think our media is ****
<0> i wont disagree...
<2> but my girlfriend's uncle dying in the trade centers stirs a nation. a black girl's uncle dying in rwanda stirs nothing - including a single american dollar.
<1> it's why i get info from internet
<3> american media is ****
<0> i think the world has gotten worse because of the internet
<1> not mainstream media
<0> well better and worse
<3> internet = worse
<1> american media is the voice of the controllers
<2> riz you've got me backwards
<0> millions of people can post "news"
<2> you are thinking of yourself
<0> and you have to make the decision on whats accurate
<1> a lot of internet is worse
<0> this has never happend in hisotyr
<1> but not all
<2> i'm not reducing your position of yourself, i seek to increase your position on world matters
<1> you must take all info with grain of salt and make a reasoned conclusion
<0> explain a little more zip
<0> totally agreed koshka
<0> but even then,
<2> i would like to repeat myself here for emphasis:
<2> but my girlfriend's uncle dying in the trade centers stirs a nation. a black girl's uncle dying in rwanda stirs nothing - including a single american dollar.
<0> what if you read 10k websites on misinformation
<0> you will make a poor decision on ti
<0> it
<0> and this was never the case in history
<0> where the common man could reach anyone with any info they chose to divulge
<1> zip- it only stires a nation because of the propaganda value
<2> no doubt
<2> that wasn't at issue
<0> zip, ok i see what your saying but
<0> are you surprised?
<0> this country is american, not worldian
<3> cant compare apples and oranges.
<2> surprised? **** no
<0> so whats the point heh
<0> do the rowandans give charity money for 911?
<0> my guess is no
<0> im not syaing i wont help them becaue of that
<2> as a black man, i seek to increase goddamn visibility of south american and african countries that need goddamn visibility
<0> i see what your saying
<1> absolutely riz
<0> but your asking for somethign thats just not goin gto happen
<2> oh please riz
<3> zipdot, i suggest you to start in america first
<0> oh please what?
<3> blacks still get shuned by media
<0> we are all monsters because we greive when our own nation bleeds?
<0> but its hard for us to grasp when a far off foreign nation is hurting?
<1> like a black coming to america or an asian complain of discrimination which is prob true
<3> a white blonde blue eyed girl > black girl.
<0> im not saying i disgree but what do you think will happen>/
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