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<0> judging on his dull, bland approaches at the media following wins and loses.
<1> what was ferguson previus experience btw?
<2> you're juding pat quinn based on being interviewed by trolls?
<2> wasnt Ferguson in charge of player personnel in St Louis?
<0> well, you get an idea of his gernal persona at the very least
<0> he's not energic/motivating
<2> it's the media
<0> he's an older man's coach
<2> who would be
<1> i know he has ties with blues since he picked up Brown...who vanised, were did he go anyway?
<0> he's a coach, just not something we need. he can coach well a team that is
<0> _already_ discipline
<0> leafs need a lot more straigtening out
<2> it's the same headhunting every year in leaf nation
<2> "fire <insert someone>"
<0> quinn doesn't have it in him. hence the impression he gives off of basically not having total control over the squad
<1> i disagree with that
<2> he was a ****ty GM
<0> well, perhaps quinns job is long overdue. perhaps it will do the leafs a lot more if we had a guy like sutter or maurice on that bench that could stringently enforce some tactics and discipline
<1> quinn and brian burke are the most charesmatic people out there, both look like in full control to me..
<0> a ****ty GM, and a ****TY coach
<2> how can you call Pat Quinn a ****ty coach?
<2> silly
<0> hmm
<2> Leafs should be 10 games under .500
<2> based on talent
<0> shrugs maybe
<0> maybe not
<0> point is, teams that go on 8game losing streaks, and perform like we have typically make a move.. and a coach is usually to show for
<2> coach is usually unjustly blamed for the ****ty performance
<1> 2005-06 Toronto Marlies AHL 30 2 2 4 65
<1> holy crap brad brown hasnt done anything
<0> anyway, i stick to quinn not doing his job. if he was damnit than Cantropov would have been penalized immidiately after his dreadful giveaweay to ott. 10seconds in. Leafs would have taken less penalties this year... this and that, it adds up and points to the coach
<0> no, instead cantropov hops on the powerplay shortly after
<1> heh
<0> i'm sorry, Quinn isn't on the ball imo
<1> hes been really awful
<0> quinn most likely respects the guys in that lockeroom like NO other coach in the league, but that's not winning hockey games any longer
<0> perhaps too much respect to get down to business
<1> they treat antoropov like they painted him with a layer of gold... so much invested in him he has to play
<0> how do you showcase a team with belak AND DOMI to OTt. don't you think they catch onto bonehead moves like that?... belak should never play period. he's utterly retarded and useless on the ice. Domi, i agree to keep simply because he fills the scrapper role better than belak can
<1> i would like to see john tortorella or how its spelled do a term on the leafs
<1> him with maurice as ***. coach
<0> belak should have been sub'ed by a marlie that can skate/stick handle/score better than he could
<2> why would you pull Maurice out of the AHL to be an ***istant coach
<2> remove head from ***
<0> yes. Maurice for headcoach
<1> why not have 2 competent people?
<2> you put people where they have the greatest benefit
<2> ***istant Coaches are meaningless
<0> pretty much, unless an ***istant works well with a head
<1> i dont know, torterella seems to be a man who get people going and disciplined...maruice seems to be more of a tactic / who to use where kind of guy
<2> Maurice a tactician?
<1> they could complement eachother pretty well
<1> thats the impression i got from him
<2> unless Paul has changed 180 degrees since his Hartford days
<0> they're both coaches i woldn't mind seeing (either one) on the bench instead of quinn
<0> that's for sure
<2> cant win without talent
<2> i dont care who's behind the bench
<1> its a plus, thats for sure
<0> yeah, maybe the guys we have on the bench just fit in with quinns style so well they see no need for player changes
<1> steen has really shown some great talent though..
<1> maybe he can pull it off ;)
<0> maybe if we had coaches for *this* league, the way it is now, they would either begin filling in the requests to get this guy, and that guy.
<0> quinn looks far too content for my liking
<1> <1> when you look at the leafs you got a handful that really plays and try to drag the rest along most games.. people like tucker, steen, domi and kaberle with his play.. the rest look comfortable and lazy at times
<1> content, lazy, just waiting for next season
<0> i mean, it's quite obvious you're SOL with some of the tards you have on the bench, but yet, Antropov remains to be the future BRIGHT star of this team
<0> yes
<0> exasctly inf
<0> inphi
<0> You know, i wouldnt be so hard on the guy if he atleast displayed some concern with the guys he has to work with, and pushed for changes
<3> domi
<3> how can u name domi
<3> domi has played like ****
<3> he does nothing
<0> but no, he's fully believing that we GOT it
<0> grim, the list goes on
<3> shoulda went to pittsburgh and took belak with him
<0> but no
<0> yeah, dorks
<0> when did belak get resigned?
<0> know off-hand grim?
<3> no idea
<1> reyeZZo| i have some faith the olympic break will shape people up though
<1> i think leafs will end up beteen 8-10 spot at the end
<0> but for how long inphi, ****, sure a nice cuddle break should round a group of guys that are in the trash atm, and bring up their fight-back mode for when they return... but when does the old-leafs att. settle in again
<1> some injuries really derailed them too
<0> fair enough
<1> the first game of the season sundin was ****ing fierce
<1> to bad it only lasted 8 minutes and then punctured him lol
<0> :]
<1> watch him first game sweden plays and compare his play
<1> i bet you its alot higher in the olympics
<1> sundin grows and naslunds dies internationaly
<0> i personally don't buy the crap that he's surrounded with crap and theirfor doesn't put numbers up.. point of the superstar, million dollar man on the team, is to lead no matter what surronds you... curious why tucker doesnt seem to be bothered by his surroundings
<1> it is odd, usualy he is a 30-35 goals a season guy, like he got really scared and started questioning hockey with that eye injury
<0> no i think, and rightfuly so, is that he's bored with the b.s. management that surrounds him, rather than the players
<1> could very well be
<1> trade rumours said he had enough with that
<0> he's a great hockey player of course, and most likely would gain his confidence back in a team, including leafs, if management displayed some p***ion in the team and chances at a cup
<0> i probably figures what good is my effort anymore
<0> he
<1> my neighbour in canada said leafs will never get it since fans keeps filling the arena, buying the merchandise and loving the past
<1> one would think leafs had won without cap with those ***ets, buy it detriot style
<0> bingo, it's exactly what i think also
<0> why would ownership spend MORE money to make the same money we're making right now
<0> we still sellout
<0> we still sell merchandise
<0> without a cup lol
<0> so hey, in the eyes of the owners, we're cup winners without a ****ing cup to show for. all good with them
<4> lol
<4> gay
<4> owners dont mean **** to me
<4> who cares what they think
<5> you dont mean **** to owners
<5> they made that clear last season
<0> dela, because if they don't wanna reach deep in their pockets, then you woudn't have ever had a star studded team like your NYR
<4> but
<4> we reach deep
<4> in our pockets
<4> when we go to the game
<4> 2 people is like a 100$ night
<4> thats insane
<1> NYR was a buss stop for stars to stop by for 3 years and cash in 11 million a year to do absolutely NOTHING
<0> welcome to a leafs game aswell
<4> exactly
<4> so i sit home
<4> watch my hd
<4> and im happy
<4> let all the corperate seats
<4> buy ****
<4> =)
<1> yeah but thats pretty sad when there are suits in the seats wondering "who is that blue team?"..
<0> yea
<0> it's a viscous circle
<0> more money -> content -> **** fans -> keep selling out -> more money ...
<1> not really, NHL has become the greatest league in the world which means its not about being the best but having the most for share holders at the end of the season
<1> hell, TML being sold had more media coverage then important political issues
<0> then im prob ignorant of that fact, cool
<1> that trash dilemma in downtown toronto was a bad fart compared
<1> i doubt leaf fanbase stays this strong for man years with cap in place and fewer bought stars around..
<1> they are going to have to make wellwood, stajan and steen the future stars
<0> they are gonna have to pull some friggen tricks outta their *** under quinn also
<1> you think belfour gets moved?
<0> big time
<1> question is what can they get for him..
<0> it's time
<0> maybe nothing
<1> and then next question shows up, what UFA goalie can they grab over summer and for what price
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