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<0> hey guys anyone here use VOIP?
<1> yes
<1> you mean like vonage?
<1> or skype?
<0> yep
<0> i'm trying to figure out which one to go with..vonage seems to be the major player..but I hate the fact that the voip adapter will only work with it
<1> each company will have it's own adaptor
<1> you dont need an adaptor for skype
<0> really? there arn't any open standards for it?
<1> i dont think so
<0> the main thing I want is somethign that gives free incoming calls and the ability to have multiple numbers at different locations..i'm not worried about international rates
<0> hmm skype looks pretty interesting
<0> is that what you're using
<2> i use vonage
<1> vonage would be your best bet
<2> vonage can work with existing phones
<2> which is nice
<2> just plug your phone into their ata gateway
<2> you can buy numbers for any where in the US and canada
<0> vonage seems priceve though
<0> err pricey
<0> they charge the same amount for each additional line..so for 2 incomming lines it's $24.99 * 2 =\
<1> for 24.95, its a decent deal
<1> compared to regular landline telco prices
<0> what about sipphone?
<1> never heard of them
<0> i wish there was a way I could pair my cell phone up with my laptop via bluetooth and use my cellphone as a wireless ipphone
<3> [\snowe\] oh hells bells
<4> why isnt tftp very popular
<5> Who says it isn't?
<4> I hate having roomates
<4> they're romanians and they slam the **** out of doors nonstop, one time they "accidently" shut the door like a normal person so came back out, pretended to do something then slammed the door as hard as they could
<4> drives me insane
<4> they're not mad it's a cultural thing though, the 1 chick is always bitching in romanian though
<4> blah blah blah, sigh I need to make some money and get out of here
<4> I ****ing hate their language
<6> if i have a TCP connection and i want to close the connection on the client, is the only thing i do close(fd)? because it seems that if the last thing the client did was write() then it works but if it read()'d it doesn't
<5> jon5k: What does the close() call return?
<6> it's returning -1
<6> hmm
<5> Check errno.
<7> I'm trying to configure a wireless to wired network bridge that uses shorewall firewall but I'm having some trouble. I've got more details and config files here: http://pastebin.ca/107332 any suggestions?
<8> hi
<8> is anyone here
<8> hey is anyone here
<9> mornin snowebabe
<10> mornin hon
<11> yo
<3> [snowe] oh hells bells
<12> how can I make mrtg graph small n umbers like 0.0 to 0.5 ?
<5> kib_: Play with the MaxBytes[] value.
<5> kib_: There are also several other global options that might come in handy in your setup: XScale and YScale, YTics and YTicsFactor, Factor, etc.
<5> See the MRTG reference manual.
<12> redondos: I did
<12> but I get an error if Is et it below 1
<5> Set what below 1?
<12> the max bytes
<5> It's in bytes.
<5> You can't set it below 1.
<12> ERROR: CFG Error in "maxbytes[bebe.load]", line 33: 1.5 must be a Number bigger than 0 <-- is the error
<12> I mean below 10
<12> I am measure load averages
<5> Oh.
<12> and they tend tob e bettween 0.0 and 0.5
<12> I tried using something over 1
<12> but no matter whatI do I get an error or a grpah that goes up to 10
<12> on agrpah going upt o 10.0 you cant see much
<12> when the averages are like 0.16
<5> AbsMax
<5> Tried that?
<12> yes
<12> I set them both the same
<12> I get similar errors as well onthat one
<5> Crap. I've never used MRTG to graph load averages.
<5> For a simple setup, I use ServerStats, but that relies on RRDtool.
<13> I missed the beginning of the conversation, but MRTG only supports integers as far as I know.
<12> anything below 0 is just counted as too low to graph
<5> Spacey: Yeah, I think so.
<12> I meant anything below 1
<13> The solution is to do load average *100
<12> when I had it set with option bits it would spike to 1 every so often
<13> http://vps.overloaded.net/mrtg/qmail/load.html
<13> like that
<12> since its multiplying * 8
<5> Sounds good.
<13> that graph breaks every night between 20:00 and 21:00
<13> no idea why
<12> those are some high loads
<13> heh
<12> my load averages never get that high
<13> those aren't high
<13> that is *100
<12> how do I tell mrtg to mutliple the values?
<5> Spacey: No error log about that breakage?
<12> I can see hwo to do perminiuute and per hour
<13> I ***ume you are fetching load with a script
<12> but those will be * 60 and *3600
<13> multiply it in the script
<13> redondos: I just never put any time into figuring it out
<5> k
<13> heh that graph isn't even updating since I moved www to a new box
<5> I still think ServerStats produces nicer graphs: http://www.twat.com.ar/serverstats/detail.php?graph=1
<5> And that's a standard setup.
<12> Spacey: then is there a way to rewrite the Y index and the summary at the bottom so it make smore sense?
<12> or maybe Ic an force it to use K and jusr rename what K is
<13> yeah usually people just note it, like on the side of the graph where it says *100
<12> redondos: will that work with data in mysql too?
<12> redondos: what does that use to generate the grpahs..can I script what the input is...I notice it accepts more then the normal limtied 2 lines
<12> redondos: what is that apckage called so I can go look it up online
<5> serverstats
<5> And yes, it is possible to fetch data using external scripts.
<12> I found it in google
<12> most of what I want to do has nothing to do with servers
<12> but I do like how this can put more then just the normal 2/4 lines up
<12> and allows you to picj which ones will be solid and which are lines
<12> this will allow me to make the graphs I really nbeed
<5> yup :)
<5> Then you can show us your creations.
<12> wel it might take awhile to create
<12> first I need to see how to install it (hopfuly via ports)
<5> I know...
<12> it took me almost a week to make http://bebe.mgmservers.net/~kib/
<5> No clue if it's available in freebsd ports
<12> using mrtg
<12> and I am not even close to finishing that...I only started with the stuff mrtg does easily..cisco and ipfw
<12> well nearly everything is availabel in freebsd prts..which makes it easier fro updates since ports will let me know when things get changed or updated
<5> Pretty cool, isn't there an index page?
<12> and its sone stop shopping to upgrade one item plus anything it depends on and anything that is dpeenadnt on it
<12> no index page
<12> its justa dumping ground for testing
<5> Ah, I See.
<12> eventually I will move it to a proper domain on another server
<12> which will watch over 4 ciscos, and 12 servers plus mysql, mail and alot of other thigns
<12> process, ram and the whole thing
<12> much like the site you listed actually
<5> Have you tried cacti?
<12> and a few odd things we care about that are not there but I am sure I an find a way to put in a graph
<12> I noticed the reference to cacti
<12> I haven't yet googled that one
<5> Right.
<5> Check it out, it might be just what you're looking for.
<12> better then the first one you mentioned?
<5> Or, of course, Nagios.
<12> isnt nagios the guy who made mrtg?
<12> it was something chinese I think
<12> could be wrong
<12> well doing portinstall cacti now
<12> if its there portinstall will get it
<5> Not that I know of, mrtg authors != nagios'.
<5> Cacti is bigger than serverstats and can monitor from several sources.
<5> Nagios is even more powerful than cacti.
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