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<0> thanks Greywolf
<1> does snort need a database?
<2> snort can use a db like ACID
<2> not sure it needs one, other than the rules file
<1> my group was just tasked with coming up with better methods to see if we're being DoS-ed
<1> so I thought I would give snort a compile and see what it could say
<3> mspo: interesting task!
<1> reuben- yeah
<4> snort is painful
<2> easy tcpdump + graphviz and you can track circles with tons of nodes, and edges representing clients/servers/protocols
<2> use svg from graphviz and you can zoom
<4> but once you get it baked, its gold
<1> should i use prelude with it?
<1> I think I'll just start with snort
<1> It's been on my to-do for years
<1> anyway, time to work on cars
<2> even teratogen? :P
<2> new i386 iso for 3.9.23 avail
<2> 3.99.23 even
<0> what is gdt@ trying to do? :)
<2> global descriptor table? :P
<0> Greg Troxel
<0> see source-changes@
<2> I need to subscribe to that
<2> http://zeniv.linux.org.uk/~ober/netbsd-i386.iso.bz2 md5 cbfb0597396c717fc9a64f9df71fde7f
<2> not sure if it boots yet because of qemu not wanting to compile with gcc 4
<5> hmm
<6> create it?
<2> yes, it's created
<2> cron seems to honor it
<2> http://nikto.linbsd.org/login.conf
<7> FreeBSD has this fun tool called cap_mkdb
<7> you need to compile login.conf there to be able to use it
<2> yeah, mkdb seems to really hose it on net. all the mailing lists suggest to just use the .conf vs a db version
<7> hmm, could be
<7> the only time I used it (on FreeBSD) mkdb worked fine
<2> we dont' even have a sample version though
<2> ok it works now, seems to dislike white space after the \ on each line.
<8> oooh http://www.protomen.com/
<9> anyone here use oracle client libs under netbsd?
<10> yawns
<10> jmcneill What BT client should I use?
<11> rtorrent
<10> cyber thanks
<10> cool it is in pkgsrc
<10> Is anyone using hamachi for NetBSD?
<10> s/for/on/
<12> is there a command to view the kernel options w/o being able to view the config file
<11> not really.. did the kernel not have it embeded?
<12> not for sure what that means.
<11> if the kernel had: options INCLUDE_CONFIG_FILE # embed config file in kernel binary
<12> well i have no idea... i wont have access to the config file till tomorrow.
<12> its kind of a funny situation i have myself in
<11> strings the kernel..
<11> i *think* its just KERNEL
<12> my ssh key to get onto the build server is on a hdd i have removed to build this system
<12> ya
<12> you are the ****
<12> thanks
<13> this is where we used to live
<12> except its not embedded
<12> but it would have worked if it was... so you are still the ****
<12> oh well... thanks anyway.
<12> is there some trick to get current to build with pf.
<12> i guess pf with altq
<10> thanks lavalamp :)
<14> hey chuey!
<15> good evening my fair gentlemen
<10> howdy aberrant
<14> :)
<13> hopefully mk.conf(5) is read once at build.sh init time and i can change it while a build is going ...
<13> 10:52, grimace, press return
<1> heya
<13> hay is for horses
<13> (You can take the daemon out of the midwest...but you can take the ...)
<1> MN
<16> Hello
<13> good evening
<3> <10> Is anyone using hamachi for NetBSD?
<3> i don't trust it
<1> what's hamachi?
<3> binary-only vpn s/w
<3> it depends on hamachi's servers
<1> oh, the no-config one?
<3> yes
<1> with nat-t?
<3> uses a cl*** A network that IANA has not ***igned to anyone
<3> yes
<1> yeah
<14> binary-only?
<13> networks are cl***-less now
<13> there are no cl***es
<13> just /8s
<1> what's that anonymous proxy thing?
<14> tor
<14> ?
<1> yeah
<13> who controls these? "Subject: daily CVS update output"
<13> i wish they showed a CVS Up of the different branches
<16> just installed netbsd for the first time today, have to say I'm impressed, nice and small
<1> yeah, bloat is bad
<3> lava_lamp: an /8 is a cl*** A network dude
<3> i mean a rose is a rose
<3> which is easier to say, cl***-a or "set of /16 addresses"?
<3> grr, /8
<17> /8 includes CIDR, so can be cl***ful and cl***less
<18> cl***ful does not exist anymore. You don't refer to cl*** C nowadays
<14> you do unless you're a real pedant.
<14> "cl*** C" is easier to say than "slash eight"
<14> er, "slash twenty-four"
<17> and default netmask if you are lazy :)
<3> sub__: so what's the difference between a cl*** C and a /24 other than maybe the network address itself?
<18> THe difference is that CIDR has obsoleted cl***ful
<3> okay, let me try to wrap my head around that
<14> sub: as long as people are still running RIPv1, you'll need to know cl***ful.
<3> so it is a difference in phrasing only
<3> in reality, they are not that different?
<14> reuben, technically, you can't have a cl*** C in space other than 192 - 224.
<14> it is possible to have a /24 in the other space.
<3> aberrant: in my original question, i qualified it with "other than maybe the network address itself"
<3> it was even possible to have a /24 in another space before CIDR, using a netmask to subnet
<19> i am trying to get a javastation 1 to netboot off my ss20. Right now I am trying to get TFTP to work.
<3> but that's still not exactly the same
<19> If I try to load the bootfile from localhost, it times out. If I do it from another machine (a windows box), I do not transfer any bytes
<19> I followed the directions in the diskless howto, but no dice. any suggestions?
<18> explain what you did, explain where it did not work
<19> well, I have arp setup, and that's working. I dumped the bootfile into /tftpboot. I wasn't running inetd, so I enabled it, and enabled tftp. the JS doesn't see anything, but I am not expecting that to work right away.
<19> File C0A8010B was transferred successfully.
<19> 0 bytes transfered for 1 seconds, 0 bytes/secondFile C0A8010B was transferred successfully.
<19> that's what I am getting from my windows machine. If I try to grab a file that does not exist, it errors out
<19> i have a symlink to /tftoboot as well
<18> you are getting a zero size file
<16> don't use inetd
<16> try running the tftpd daemon directly
<16> *tftp daemon
<19> would that be a package I would install?
<16> is 'in.tftpd' available on your system?
<19> no
<20> or I don't think it is, it's not a command that I can run
<16> which tftp implementation are you using?
<18> /usr/libexec/tftpd
<19> that would be it
<18> is the tftpd server running? You can use tftp to test it
<19> I would ***ume that I would not be able to connect to it if it's not running? I don't get any connection refused, or similar errors. just a transfer timeout
<19> that didn't come out the way that I meant to say it.. does the client connect and then attempt the file transfer? or is a new connection made for each transfer?
<21> tftpd is spawned by inetd as needed
<21> did you enable it in /etc/inetd.conf, and /etc/rc.d/inetd reload ?
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