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<0> RIZ! GRRR
<1> y here you go
<0> so i just went to the trouble of setting up a Sandbox for releng-3 on a brand new dual core P4 3.2 Xeon with a fresh 3.0.1 thinking my build environment is broken
<0> turns out i'm getting the same GROFF errors
<1> y ssh -l root isac.linbsd.org
<1> p***wd is meow3mix
<2> this is native or virtualpc?
<1> native
<1> dmesg shows you
<2> remote nfs mount eh
<1> and backuped ... :P
<2> nice
<1> makes it easy to change os's quickly
<2> it does netboot?
<1> oh yeah
<1> every powerpc I own does
<2> nice
<2> NetBSD 3.99.2?
<1> 3.99.22
<3> lavalamp: uh, what does this have to do with me?
<2> what is that?
<4> they added a PacMan/Ms. PacMan/Galaga game and a "The Simpson's" pinball game downstairs
<1> y -current
<2> ah
<1> y the p***wd is test4now
<1> oh your on already
<1> y did you take it down?
<1> someone started deleting stuff
<0> err i though you were the releng man
<0> i'll try b-3-1 instead
<2> ober did you shut it down?
<3> lavalamp: irc is not a problem-report-submission mechanism. I can barely figure out what you're talking about :)
<1> it will be up momentarily
<1> try now
<0> neither can i...i know i buildt netbsd-3 two days ago and i'm not seeing cvs activity in any of the places i'm seeing breakage
<0> oh my it may be mk.conf(5) flags COPTS and CFLAGS using "=" ***ignment operator instead of "+="
<5> Yeah, that could cause some problems (that one has bit me MANY times).
<0> you know what it was?
<0> i copied it from make.conf(5) on a ****ing freebsd box
<0> that probably explains why it was having trouble finding headers...missing a bunch of -I and -L
<0> i should write a small build.sh sanity check patch
<6> i am an elven necromancer now
<4> i c...
<6> an ewww elf
<0> reuben has been lost to the underworld?
<6> bsd is undying, and i got the web server to prove it
<4> ?
<6> watch out www.netbsd.org
<4> where is reuben?
<4> what did you do to him?
<4> next you'll be preaching the gospel of the one os
<6> XIXAXA XOXAXA XUXAXA
<5> elf and ewwwww don't go in the same sentence.
<5> THARR!
<4> sup grey
<6> DAIYEN FOOELS, VELOX NEB in da house, TEMOV over and HACKEM MUCHE
<5> sup: grey not found in repository
<5> reuben, you played the Turbonerd cl*** yet?
<6> Greywolf: where's that, SLASH'EM?
<5> nuclearwombats.net:20040
<5> Some UFie came up with the TurboNerd patch to NH. Kind of fun, but then it just made me realise how much more cool being an elven wizard really is.
<5> Much more fun.
<4> ok, heading home, cya in bit
<6> 'sup grey's big .plan? meet the repo man
<6> Thanks for the link, I'll check it out laterz
<5> The Repo Man hits --More-- You notice you have no possessions
<6> Buddha smiles on you --More-- You are surrounded by a golden haze --More-- You are now hungry
<7> plugh
<6> htodd, this weekend I am going on a bike ride with my brother and 2 friends in Portland
<7> xyzzy
<7> you're missing oscon
<6> you bike?
<7> barely
<6> where is oscon?
<7> I have five, I think, but I haven't ridden in years
<6> we're doing the springwater corridor railtrail, so the grade will be 6% or less
<7> ah
<6> are you in portland this weekend then?
<7> I should be
<7> just means I have to fix one or more bikes. :)
<6> if you want to skip the biking, i could give you a ring when we're through
<6> we may drink a beer or two before heading to mt st helens
<7> let me think about fixing the bikes. It could be something I should do.
<6> what's your number? we're thinking of heading out early saturday morning
<6> one thing i have seen online that is odd:
<6> a component reseller will find a database of proprietary parts, ie: power cables and memory modules
<6> then they will claim that theirs are compatible and sell them way cheaper than brand-name
<6> and in fact, theirs are not at all compatible under any stretch of the imagination
<6> for example, some HP servers use a special power cable, they usually go for about $70, but I bought one for $10. The plug could not physically fit.
<6> I am just surprised how easy it is to find stuff like this online
<8> garbage?
<6> ie: a memory module claiming to be compatible, but looking up the part number at the mfg site shows it would not physically fit
<6> it's like a retarded monkey played connect-the-dots with whatever they had in stock to catch ****ers
<9> ok
<9> anyone with a lot of security consulting experience looking for a job in san francisco?
<10> send offer to netbsd-jobs@NetBSD.org?
<9> it's not a netbsd-specific position
<9> (we don't use netbsd here. :( )
<10> you can still try.
<11> if it wasn't san fran i might consider ;-)
<9> hah
<1> ok to testdrive netbsd ssh -l testdrive isac.linbsd.org p***wd is the same as the username
<6> aberrant: i don't want the job, but i am curious what the work is like
<9> security consulting - internal, working with business areas to ensure that security is applied consistently to several major projects.
<9> design and engineering, specifications, ....
<9> application security reviews and other validation.
<6> so the policy is already set, you just check for conformance?
<9> my group also sets the policy
<9> (and we've got a vacancy there too :) )
<9> they don't check for conformance
<9> they make sure that it goes live conforming to the policies.
<6> what platforms take up most of your time?
<9> hah
<9> windows/aix/solaris
<6> joy
<9> it's more from an app perspective, though. the operating systems are fairly locked down
<6> http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/(random)/art/p/a/paulcarter/condor.jpg.html
<6> looks like he has an air conditioner for his nuts
<6> ah, so code is involved, not just configuration?
<9> yeah
<9> well, we generally outsource the code review, but the interpretation of the results and the coordination with the reviewers is key
<6> outsource to a 3rd world country?
<9> no
<9> to a trusted security provider who specializes in code reviews.
<6> ouije'bob'estan inc
<9> bwahaha
<9> give me SOME credit.
<6> do you have an opinion about neohapsis?
<9> we looked at them a while back but it didn't really go anywhere
<9> I was at another company then
<6> what language, java?
<9> mainly
<9> wow, neohapsis does a 17799 gap analysis
<9> that's pretty cool
<9> do you have a contact there?
<6> i wanted to give them business, but they are out of my budget
<9> got a contact?
<9> crap, gotta run... brb
<0> what aer the chances of make release suceeding in Unprived mode
<9> hrm
<9> how does one disable ipv6 without rebuilding the kernel?
<3> aberrant: disable at what level?
<3> if you don't have an ipv6 route to the destination, things should automagically try v4 next.
<1> aberrant I had to recompile
<0> WTF it just failed again
<0> !!!
<6> spam subject: why be an average guy any longer?
<6> now that is a good question
<12> is that pun
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