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<1> I hate job-search pages that list every city where they have positions... in a listbox 5 rows high.
<2> and they say "pick 5"
<2> you're like "woah, prague would be cool"
<2> "and so would paris, but im really looking for portland"
<1> I'm trying to think of companies that would have large datacenters/NOCs where I might work after I graduate.
<2> no comment.
<1> I got booted off of SSH earlier, and can't reconnect.
<1> Now when I try to login to FTP, it tells me my credentials are invalid.
<2> you must pay for your shells
<2> !
<1> I'm wondering if someone yanked my access, though I have no idea why they would've done that.
<3> credentials?
<4> ask the admin
<3> you using krb?
<1> PAM_pwdb[18917]: authentication failure; (uid=0) -> jcantu for ftp service
<1> uid 0?
<3> ftp still runs as root
<1> how the hell do I tell a cron job to NOT send me mail?
<5> redirect stuff to /dev/null
<5> ober: grep
<3> yeah...
<3> no OSrev equivalent to obsd
<3> oh well my hack will have to do
<5> grmbl.
<3> hubertEF: having a bad time as well?
<5> i want to forward incoming FTP traffic to a ftpd behind an IPfilter-NAT... how do I do that?
<5> ^- == yes
<3> rdr ?
<3> rdr the udp ports
<3> iirc that is how I use to do it, not sure if ipf has changed much since I used it last
<5> it must have changed a lot, if you've frobbed with UDP ports :)
<4> tcp :)
<3> ftp over tcp?
<4> port 21
<3> yeah your right , I am not sure wtf I was thinking
<3> you're even
<6> Ober runs FTP over MSN, naturally
<3> TGEN yeah this afs stuff is kicking my butt :P
<4> Which ftp server are you using?
<3> obviously not on udp :P
<5> sub: NetBSD's ftpd
<4> I don't think it can change the PASV ip address
<6> ftp-proxy?
<4> To get around it, yes
<3> do we support the 'register' keyword in C?
<7> Ober: maybe you were thinking tftp?
<3> __cyber: maybe
<3> sad thing is that was a silly mistake for me :P
<7> are you a CCIE?
<3> no, just do a lot of ethereal work
<3> rdr fxp0 0.0.0.0/0 port 20 -> 10.0.0.50 port 20 tcp
<3> ahh it was tcp. just remembering rdr + udp bugs on ipf causing panics.
<3> nov 19 2000 so it's pretty old syntax
<8> you should get an ftp server that supports upnp :)
<9> it's 20 and 21
<8> I wonder why you'd want to use ftp these days
<9> upnp ****s
<9> mspo, because it works?
<9> how else can I install NetBSD? over ssh?
<9> perhaps samba?
<8> I would rather use tftp :)
<3> wife
<3> wife's business requires it. so I have to support it.
<3> be glad to remove the need for root on it with kauth :P
<10> hubertEF: specify "portrange" in ftpd.conf then open those up in your firewall, as well as 21, should do it for PASV ftp to work...
<8> what's up?
<11> what's up mspo
<8> nothing much
<11> what are some good bsd distributed filesystems
<0> coda?
<0> afs?
<8> nfs?
<11> what the difference between the coda and afs?
<11> feature wise
<11> I ask cause I need some design papers to study
<8> I think afs is well documented
<11> is coda written in C as well.
<11> do any of them implement features from vertias
<8> vxfs isn't distributed
<11> what is it then
<8> it's just a filesystem
<11> vxfs is the plan9 filesystem right?
<8> vcs is a layer above the filesystem that coordinates
<8> not that I know of
<8> zfs is pretty neat
<11> why is that?
<11> one more question
<8> it's endian-indenpendent, allows absurdly large partitions, has built-in raid, block-level commit checking, the works
<4> Now I know why Sun stock is up by 50%
<0> i heard zfs will do your laundry
<8> it did mine
<0> <8> twice
<8> actually, I've never used it :)
<8> but it seems to have the most features of any filesystem I've seen
<0> me neither
<0> doesn't seem very useful on an 8GB IDE disk
<8> BitWeiler- "distributed" is kind of vague these days too
<8> or 72GB disks, for that matter
<8> or when you only have two disks
<11> why and what's new
<8> maybe I could convert a big san store I have to zfs. That might be fun
<8> you can distribute to many disks, over networks, over networked scsi, tiers..
<8> on and on and on it goes
<11> what about local filesystems then
<8> zfs is the way, if you're studying
<8> opensolaris
<8> netbsd's lfs isn't distributed, but it's cl***ic
<11> I mainly looking at IDE hardware not SCSI
<8> BitWeiler- you keep switching gears on me
<8> what is your purpose?
<11> to write a netbsd filesystem in common lisp
<8> lisp isn't as portable as netbsd
<8> but it's a good goal
<11> I was thinking distributed, but I might need to go local
<8> BitWeiler- why don't you start with e PUFFS in lisp?
<11> what is e puffs
<11> since I don't have the hardware to do a distributed
<11> unless the local FLOSS group donates hardware
<0> you can use something like qemu or vmware to do that
<11> good idea had thought of that
<11> what does vmware let you do
<8> PUFFS is userland filesystem
<11> ok I going to develop using sbcl since it's let's you
<11> produce stand alone apps
<11> I just thought a lisp file system would be different and pretty cool to see on a netbsd box
<8> I'm telling you puffs is the way to go
<11> is it in the pkgsrc tree
<8> I think it's in current
<11> why puffs what makes it so different than the rest? dunno
<0> puffs lets you write a userland filesystem implementation
<11> in what lang thou
<8> http://netbsd.gw.com/cgi-bin/man-cgi?puffs++NetBSD-current
<0> in any language that you want
<8> that's why it's good for your lisp idea
<0> <8> i just wanted to type 'man puffs'
<11> ok, thanks
<11> ok, i was thinking machine intelligence would be a cool feature of a file system any thoughts.
<11> any good techinal papers about new ideas on file system I should read, besides UFS & FFS
<8> and the other five we've mentioned?
<8> the paper about the beos filesystem is popular
<11> yes, new ideas and I think I'll put off distributed FS for awhile and just go local
<11> ok is kernel programming required to implement a filesystem?
<11> or just kernel support for it?
<11> hey mspo, zfs is license prioriety software by sun right.
<11> I mean will sun try to sue anyone trying to port the zfs-filesystem
<4> http://zfs-on-fuse.blogspot.com/
<1> What time is it in the states roughly anyway?
<12> 6 yo 8 hours earlier than gmt
<12> I believe?
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