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<0> jontow: it's nasty stuff
<0> for some reason, it's the only beer my boss likes
<1> well
<1> i'd not tried it too many times
<1> but for some reason it was cheap today
<1> so i bought it
<1> i should've bought canadian beer
<1> way more effective..
<2> cheers!
<3> http://osx.portraitofakite.com/
<4> Tetris DS is evil. Pure evil.
<3> hi
<5> hi hubert
<5> "proposal to remove all games from base system"
<3> hu?
<3> where was that proposed?
<5> i am making fun of the proposal to add another game to the system
<5> personally, i think netbsd games should be moved to pkgsrc.. they're not that great
<3> yeah, move stuff to pkgsrc is good
<3> BUT
<3> we really need something to cross-compile pkgsrc ASAP
<3> and then install binary pkgs
<3> from sysinst
<5> hubertef: why do we need to cross-compile snakes?
<5> hubertef: it was a c=64 game, it should build fine anywhere
<3> you're missing the point
<3> have you ever compiled something on, say, an amiga?
<3> it _****s_, speed-wise
<5> i have combiles stuff on my nec 780
<5> it ****s speed-wise as well
<5> but it will build snakes just fine
<5> the games are trivial, they aren't nethack or quake
<5> and i build nethack on netbsd/68020
<3> if it builds :)
<5> it ran slow as a dog, no fun
<3> and even then, you have to spend hours first
<5> why if?
<5> and why would it take hours to build snakes?
<5> and if it does, will netbsd even run worth a darn?
<3> i'm not talking about snakes in particular
<5> which game are you talking about?
<5> i guess you could say the whole batch of them, but i don't even think that would be worth the pain of converting pkgsrc as a whole to a cross-building system
<3> i'm talking of stuff being takein out of the NetBSD system - sendmail, uucp
<5> oh, i was talking about games
<3> people who want that programs now have to go through a lot of pain to get them again
<5> how did uucp ever exist before pentium4's and cross-build?
<6> huh... uucp was dropped from system? ugly. we need 'cu' often. or minicom. or smth for raw communications.
<5> dqapb: i don't think it has been dropped yet. tip has cu compatibility mode. they are suppose to polish that up before dropping uccp.
<5> uucp
<6> ok, not bad.
<5> i argued too much
<7> hey, what's up?
<8> not a whole lot
<7> that dhclient thing is an old pr
<8> apparantly freenode is having some troubles
<7> there's a gay pride parade down the street
<9> yeah.. and those ****ers have blocked the traffic at all places
<10> ****ers?
<7> dsr_- I know. My girlfriend is trying to get accross peachtree so we can get some lunch
<7> across
<9> sorry. the cops
<10> They blocked traffic because of the parade?
<9> yes
<9> mspo: give her some more time
<7> dsr_- I think she's trying to get ahead/behind it
<10> so they had a parade to stop you from having lunch with your girlfriend?
<7> dsr_- some cop told her that 14th was open earlier. I'm sure she could cross around 17th
<7> yeah
<7> stupid gays
<10> I knew it was a conspiracy
<9> 14th is open only if you want to head to 85N
<9> if you want to cross over to peachtree you better know those bylanes
<7> I think she can handle it
<9> even yesterday evening the traffic was all blocked on 10th near piedmont park
<7> I didn't notice
<9> were you in that area when it was raining ?
<7> yep
<7> dsr_- my girlfriend lives on sixth st. We were on the porch
<9> aah.
<9> Arcelor/Mittal to merge atlast
<7> so were you involved in the gatech/intel stuff that was recently announced?
<7> 500GHz processor or whatever?
<9> nope
<9> i read it in papers just as everyone else did
<7> oh well :)
<9> :)
<11> stupid gays?
<11> wow
<11> McCusick or whowever as gay
<11> http://www.mckusick.com/~mckusick/
<7> <shrug>
<7> I'm hungry
<11> [unzip]
<11> err, yea >:}
<11> j/k dud
<11> e
<12> re
<12> anyone seen chuey around?
<10> He's in jail. He was caught har***ing the barmaid as she would not open another keg for him
<9> :)
<12> bwahahaha
<12> he'd know the answer to my stupid question
<12> since he has a qube
<10> I think he gave his cube away
<12> did he? :(
<12> crap.
<10> I think so. It's been a while since he mentioned it
<12> the serial logon changed in 3.0
<9> he probably gave it to riz
<12> and I can't figure out how to get a logon prompt over serial anymore. I think the ttys is screwed up
<8> That sounds familar. I think riz was bugging him for it a while ago.
<12> oooh.
<13> lots of stuff got screwed up on port-cobalt in recent releases..
<13> netbooting, booting off alternate drives..
<14> so...
<14> while driving 120miles to work and back daily isn't that bad, when you throw in having to help your mother move on the weekends, the **** factor increases 10 fold
<11> use drugs.
<14> drugs are not an options
<14> i'll just have to alter the fabric of time and space
<12> is there any way to tell netbsd to default to udma 4?
<15> hey aberrant lnt
<15> s
<12> :)
<12> hey ober
<9> aberrant: there are certain flags for ide devices
<9> but itsd risky
<11> kernel flags can force negotiation speeds (and fail to attach when negotiation fails)
<11> like, i can't get my CF->IDE adapters out of PIO4 mode
<12> so I should not worry about the error msgs on boot?
<11> it may be a sign of poor interrupt performance or poor cables
<12> wd0(viaide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5 (Ultra/100) (using DMA)
<12> wd0: transfer error, downgrading to Ultra-DMA mode 4
<12> wd0(viaide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 4 (Ultra/66) (using DMA)
<12> wd0d: error reading fsbn 0 (wd0 bn 0; cn 0 tn 0 sn 0), retrying
<11> interfearance
<12> wd0: (aborted command, interface CRC error)
<12> wd0: soft error (corrected)
<11> yea well it's VIA
<11> grab your ankles
<12> is it gonna cause fs corruption?
<11> i was just looking at thier Mini-ITX s and dry-heaving into my coffee mug
<10> No
<12> even that soft error, sub?
<12> it's a bit worrying
<12> but I'd like to get netbsd on this set top box.
<10> The last one may be a problem, the downgrading is not
<11> it seems to negotiate at probe time at a higher speed than is really possible
<11> then during the first read operation it re-negotiates
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