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<0> memory? you confuse RAM with storage
<1> surely t loads the half gig into memory, or tries to
<0> No, it doesn't
<1> ok
<1> it must seek the disk
<0> It's not a sequential seek
<1> ok
<1> so it's only disk space?
<1> nothing else?
<0> Yes
<1> right
<1> well
<1> **** me
<2> i hate when i have data and can't think of how to present it
<3> does it?
<3> last time i played with svn (which is years++ ago) it didn't
<0> APR
<4> pita is how I spell it :P
<4> subversion-client/ would be a fantastic addition imho
<5> i love svn
<5> Ober: in a way, I could think of apache as a sort of inetd
<5> Ober: but I know it is ugly under the hood
<5> judging from the time I tried to dive into the mod_perl source
<3> ober: it's called subversion-base
<4> yeah it wants apr as well
<5> Ober: as if there aren't a dozen programs in the world that want glib
<3> ober: try mercurial - it only wants python
<5> utility libraries are almost as numerous as gui toolkits
<5> I have no criticism of Python so far
<6> heh
<6> that's cuz you're not working on the same project I am ;)
<5> =)
<5> I have noticed that some modules are more robust than others
<6> try reading someone else's spaghetti, uncommented code, and you'll come up with some criticisms pretty fast
<5> what project are you working on?
<6> work stuff
<5> criticism of the code, or of the language?
<6> I can recall _liking_ the fact that indentation was the only way to do structure, for example
<5> In general, my Python scripts are about as long as my shell scripts
<5> I could abstrace more away into modules
<5> but I count total lines
<5> but on python vs shell, python is a lot faster and easier to read
<4> I just would like to check out some code with svn client...
<4> just love longer than expected compiles due to dependencies
<5> sn co --username slartybartfast https://hostname/svn/repositoryname localcopydirectoryname
<5> svn that is
<5> Ober: you're complaining about apr as a dependency!!
<5> I remember complaining about Python and Gnome as dependencies for a relatively small application I wanted to use
<4> reuben: yes I know, ****ty day and waiting for httpd to compile was not in my plans when guestimating how long it would take to get usable svn client :P
<5> Ober: a drop in the barrel, when I was doing a bulk build for my workstation, including thunderbird, seamonkey, and firefox
<4> I know
<7> don't compile svn with mod_dav_svn enabled then
<7> iirc devel/subversion-base is what you're looking for
<4> sit still pulls down http
<7> you did make clean first right?
<7> cq. make distclean
<4> fresh install :P
<7> oh, then you just mean apr?
<4> that's fine
<4> yes
<7> no way of getting around that
<4> yeah I see that now :P
<4> ok found a fast box so no biggy, just a pita on a slow O2
<7> 180MHz?
<4> yeah :P
<7> hehe
<4> TGEN: security thru dead archs :P
<7> Ober: nah, still lots of MIPS32/64 embedded devices around
<4> true
<7> (*cough* I'm picking up a quad r12k o200 tomorrow, craylinked)
<4> nice
<7> 270MHz CPUs
<7> but before it'll be usable I'd have to port some OS to it ;)
<4> :P
<8> craylinked?
<9> craylinked = bus ?
<7> lavalamp: interconnect between two Origin 200 systems
<7> an Origin 200 can have at most one CPU module with two CPUs, but it can also link up with another Origin 200 to create a quad ccNUMA machine
<7> (or dual ofcourse, if each of your Origin 200s has only one CPU on its module)
<8> so it's a high-speed inter-machine link?
<7> yeah, a bridging link
<7> and it's not really that high-speed anymore
<8> well, more high-speed than serial at 115.2k :)
<10> arrgh
<10> xfce4 is now busticated for me
<1> mother fucj
<1> what a day
<1> already
<7> mornin' yeled
<1> oops
<1> morning
<11> heyhey
<12> hey shaded!
<5> http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/article2162862.ece
<5> hi mspo
<13> heya
<5> yay, you're alive
<1> who
<2> sup folks
<2> you suspected mspo was dead?
<1> he knows too much
<13> ;)
<1> ok
<1> i now understand VCI and VPI settings for ADSL
<14> Did you just read ATM basics ?
<1> well i have now
<1> i want more
<1> this book only covers PPPoA which we will be using
<1> but id like oto know about PPPoE
<1> and how those ISPs are set up
<1> i imagine it goes straight to Ethernet and then switched with MPLS or similar
<14> I am not sure if they use MPLS
<0> It doesn't use MPLS
<14> PPPoE is PPP over Ethernet over ATM (AAL5)
<1> how would a PPPoE switch and route?
<1> ah pl
<1> ok
<1> so it's still ATM
<0> DSLAM
<14> morning sub
<0> Morning dsr_
<2> sub, the Ma'at of the channel
<1> so
<2> i've nearly finished creating a tool that will make it so that i don't have to interact with customer service nearly as much
<2> probably save me 2-3hrs/week
<2> ditto for them
<3> NetBSD operating system ported to Xilinx Virtex - http://www.feyrer.de/NetBSD/blog.html/nb_20070119_1757.html
<7> well, saying NetBSD was ported to the "Xilinx Virtex" is not really true
<7> it is ported to the embedded 405 core found in the Virtex 4 FX adn some Virtex 5 chips
<3> which are not Virtex?
<13> <yawn>
<7> NedBeasty: my point is, not all Virtex chips have PowerPC cores in them
<7> NedBeasty: e.g., the Virtex 4 LX ones don't (they're the lowest-end Virtex 4s)
<15> choey you there?
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