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<0> listening to some old music and translating the lyrics :)
<1> how old?
<0> hmm..the original poetry is from early 1900s and late 1800s
<2> hmmm
<2> some regression with 4.0 beta
<2> netbooting mips now prompts for device to boot vs just choosing it like before on generic w/ 3.0
<3> thousands a year wasted on serial concentrators
<3> :P
<4> hi
<5> Hi
<4> :)
<1> hi scardinal
<4> reuben: hiya how are ya doing ?
<1> hi sub
<1> scardian: good!
<5> Hi reuben



<4> reuben: nice :)
<1> sub is a genius
<5> I doubt that
<1> but he won't cut me any slack when i talk 2 leet
<4> hehe
<5> Let me set myself away and you can be as teeny as you wish:)
<1> sub: i didn't mean to drive you away
<1> that was just an excuse to say the word slack
<5> I will:)
<1> praise bob!
<1> http://feralhouse.com/titles/kulchur/strange_creations.php
<4> Where is LOCALBASE supposed to be set ?
<4> mk.conf
<4> but where is it set in the NetBSD base ?
<4> ahh problem solved
<6> donde estas mspo!
<7> heyhey
<6> what's the good word
<7> Not much. New hardware to play with :)
<6> hmm, I waiting for new toys to be delivered
<6> some Asus AP which might cover my entire house
<6> WL-566gM
<6> *I'm
<7> SPARCbook 3GX came yesterday
<7> I recovered my Performa 6360
<7> and I've got a Macbook that should be here any day now
<6> and a pair of gloves to prevent the macbook from staining? ;)
<1> i slept poorly
<1> must have been something i ate
<8> thanks
<6> mspo: know a Cory La Scala?
<8> TGEN- nope. Should I?
<6> mspo: maybe. She sends abuse emails to any address she can find
<6> From: "Cory La Scala" <c.lascala@cox.net>; To: abuse@ripe.net; Cc:
<6> hostmaster@ripe.net, ris@ripe.net, ncc@ripe.net,
<6> webmaster@ripe.net, ttm@ripe.net, ops@ripe.net, ripe-dbm@ripe.net,
<6> rrcc@ripe.net
<8> oh
<8> TGEN- that's a cox customer, not an employee ;)
<6> oh
<6> spank her silly anyways ;)
<8> sorry, I'm not really allowed to do that sort of thing :)
<6> ofcourse you are, you're in the Land of the Free!
<8> you can report her activities to abuse@cox.net
<9> funny that she mails abuse@ripe.net
<6> mspo: woohoo, as if that's gonna help :)
<8> TGEN- abuse@ has us delete people's webspace all the time
<8> I don't know if they do that much about spam
<8> but they usually take it pretty seriously because if a lot of people @cox.net are spamming, we end up on block lists
<8> which drives calls to customer service
<8> which costs money
<6> ah, good to hear
<8> TGEN- are there any cox servers in the actual header, or is it just a dummy-address?
<8> TGEN- because people are only allowed to hit our mail servers when they're on our network
<6> dunno, I'd have to get back on that
<8> plus a few other provisions to help keep people from being serious spammers :)
<8> I remember one time our old security engineer got a virus on his pc
<8> and it was emailing everyone in the office with different from: addresses
<8> and I was the only one who looked at the headers while fifty people went around blaming eachother for sending eachother viruses
<8> this, of course, included our whole email support team :)



<6> hehe
<6> mspo: it actually is an email complaining about spam
<8> hmm
<8> TGEN- that's a little odd
<6> yup
<8> hmm, ftp(1) doesn't handle redirects very well
<8> hmm, why arent' I getting a DISPLAY variable when I ssh -X to my box?
<8> I started xdm
<8> okay
<8> got it
<8> no xdm needed
<8> just sshd_config change
<8> is there a light web browser that doesn't ****?
<5> elinks
<6> dillo
<8> I used to use dillo
<8> what about chimera?
<6> never heard of that
<8> PKG_PATH is very picky
<8> okay, chimera is working
<8> it's very xlib-looking :)
<6> does it do javascript and css?
<8> uhh, I don't think so
<8> I would appear that it doesn't even do http auth
<6> that's what I dislike about these small browsers, they're so limited :)
<8> it would appear to not even have arrows if the screen is too big
<10> Arrows are a CPU intensive luxury!
<8> apparently :)
<8> amaya wouldn't be too bad
<11> opera is pretty light
<11> <_<;
<11> dillo is extremely light, but it also lacks support for most things
<11> like CSS
<5> And Flash
<10> Who needs Flash? :-)
<8> pkgsrc opera seems to require linux
<5> TGEN
<6> hmmm?
<5> That was the answer to the question
<6> ofcourse, sub's webcam is only viewable via flash ;(
<5> :)
<11> mspo: yeah, it's a closed-source app
<11> they have a native freebsd version I believe though
<8> let's see how dillo works forwarded
<8> ah, good ol' gtk crashes all the time :)
<9> elinks is wonderful
<9> supports Javascript, and CSS
<7> elinks?
<9> elinks
<7> is it graphical?
<9> nope
<7> boo-urns
<12> hmm.. elinks looks kinda neat.. I'll definitely have to see how robust its JS support is..
<12> elinks + ratpoison and i think a sparcbook 3GX might be useful..
<13> ratpoison and not ion?
<7> cyber: IIRC macallan got opera working on his 3gx under compat_svr4
<12> javascript support?
<12> eventually, i'm going to need AJAX and JSON support on whatever I run as my rack console box..
<7> opera has good support for that
<7> Are you running -current on the 3GX?
<7> He has done some very nice work recently for it
<0> http://sshwindows.webheat.co.uk/ <-- for people looking for putty alternatives
<8> dsr- you should use jmcneill's putty-on-unix port :)
<0> :)
<8> links-gui seems to be the best small browser I've tried
<8> although I like the dillo ui
<8> dillo doesnt support frames
<8> which is pretty lame
<8> let's see how links handles gmail :)
<8> not so much
<7> yay, opera appears to be running under COMPAT_SVR4
<7> I can't actually test it until I get home, but ktruss doesn't complain too loudly :)
<8> jmcneill- sparc64?
<7> sparc


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