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<0> WOOF
<1> Woof
<2> hello
<0> 'sup?
<2> trying to get netbsd onto a soekris
<2> :)
<2> Greywolf: you ?
<1> mspo has a how-to. check his website
<2> sub: do you know the url ?
<3> www.mspo.com ?
<2> ah thanks :)
<3> hmm
<3> must need a path I think ;)
<1> I forgot. let's see if I can find it
<3> http://www.mspo.com/soekris.html that seems appropriate ;)
<3> google found it ;-)



<3> ahh
<2> =)
<3> hd install ;)
<3> easy then :-)
<2> Kralian: heh yeah.. I found a page for CF install
<3> boot f0 boots PXE btw
<2> only problem is... tools won't build.. so can't build a ramdisk
<3> ehm.. tools won't build?
<2> Kralian: no :/
<3> what version you trying to build?
<2> 2.1
<3> that's fairly old, innit?
<2> Kralian: yeah.. old and works ;)
<3> I'm using 3.0 everywhere theese days..
<3> and for some reason, 3.0.1
<2> no probs ?
<3> nope
<3> this isn't free/open/linuxbsd ;-)
<2> Kralian: lol
<2> Kralian: am updating src to 3.something now
<4> hm.
<5> scardinal: netbsd-3 is what you want
<2> carneous: okay.. I guess I'm cvs'ing to current
<5> well, there's always that :p
<2> ;)
<2> carneous: cvs is rather slow so I wouldn't like to restart it ;)
<6> netbsd doesnt have cvsup?
<2> neologism: yeah... they link to some cvsup servers on netbsd.org
<6> so why dont you use cvsup? its MUCH faster then cvs
<2> I didn't know it was faster.. but think it sounds so.. uhm.. freebsd'ish ;)
<6> there's even csup (cvsup equivalent written in C)
<2> nice
<6> also.. I think there is cvs repo available via cvsup
<6> so you can cvsup this repo (which is fast) and then "cvs update" from it
<6> MUCH faster then cvs up from network
<2> neologism: uhm.. in my case it's faster to use the cvs from network since my server seems really slow in processing cvs
<6> I dont understand.. your server is slow with cvs so you use cvs because its faster?
<6> and I dont care personally I just wanted to share the knowledge :)
<2> no no it's two different things.. if I use my own server to checkout from it's slower then checking out from a netbsd server abroad
<6> thats strange
<5> just a hint: you should never really need to do a checkout
<5> download recent src tarballs then update them.
<5> much faster, plus much less load on the cvs server
<5> recent netbsd-3 src tarballs are at: ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD-daily/netbsd-3/200606090000Z/source/sets/
<5> neologism: why? it works.
<5> not the flavour of the month though/
<6> carneous: atomic commits
<5> heh
<6> ever spent an hour digging throughr src looking for "the last file this commit changed" ?
<5> nope
<5> bbs
<6> bbs?
<6> Be Brave n ***y?
<0> Me? Trying to get my brain back. Trying to focus on some creativity, but I keep getting distracted...by beer.
<0> [re: Not much, you?]
<2> carneous: thanks :)
<2> neologism: be back soon ;)
<2> Greywolf: ahh.. is it working ?
<6> oh... I am used to "brb"
<7> hmm



<2> carneous: only 200kb/s from ftp.netbsd.org :/
<5> scardinal: still faster than cvs co :p
<2> heh yeah
<5> neologism: when in doubt:
<5> ice02$ /usr/games/wtf bbs
<5> ice02$ /usr/games/wtf bbs BBS: be back soon
<6> carneous: I dont have netbsd system
<5> I'm sorry
<5> are you here because you need help getting one?
<6> no
<6> I am here because I am stealing some netbsd code and I sometimes need help explaining things :)
<5> wouldn't that be easier with a full system and src to work with?
<6> I have src/sys checked out
<6> and I dont need anything else
<2> neologism: yeah you do.. you need converting to netbsd ;)
<6> I dont think so
<2> hehe
<6> I am really impressed with some things in netbsd kernel
<6> but some other were resovled in fbsd (which I am using) a long time ago
<5> example?
<2> usb performance
<2> using fbsd I can write a cf card using usb with 3mb/s or so.. using netbsd I get lousy 300kb/s
<2> writing 1gb gets pretty dreadful :/
<6> I meant coding things
<2> ok
<5> scardinal: 3.x fixed a lot of USB issues IIRC
<6> carneous: I dont know from top of my head but sometimes I see things and I say "wow... this is great!"
<2> carneous: just not this ;)
<6> and sometimes I look at things and say "hm.. this looks like 8yrs old fbsd"
<6> but overall I am impressed with netbsd
<2> carneous: I really wonder why it isn't working out cause usbdevs says it's connected using high speed
<6> the only thing which annoys me is how many archs it supports
<6> when I search the sources for some MD thing it flushes 20 definitions ;)
<5> scardinal: using 3.x ?
<8> morning
<5> evening
<8> :)
<2> carneous: yes
<5> hrm
<2> carneous: 3.99.20
<5> well, probably still broken then :/
<2> :/
<2> I'll upgrade it then :)
<2> what does mspo mean when he writes download running kernel ?
<5> don't know?
<2> I don't either.. but I downloaded the netbsd-INSTALL.gz
<2> carneous: if you are interested http://www.mspo.com/soekris.html :)
<5> INSTALL is only good to run the installer
<5> oh, I see
<5> yeah, I think he means get that one
<5> you do want the installer :)
<2> carneous: he writes download netbsd sets, install kernel, and running kernel
<2> I got the two first.. wondering what the last is ;)
<5> yeah I just saw
<5> oh
<5> GENERIC
<2> ahh thanks :)
<5> I would say
<5> scardinal: feedback that to him
<2> carneous: will do
<7> heh
<9> ejk: yo
<10> =)
<11> Innes: hi
<9> hail
<12> Haloo
<2> ehlo
<13> when I insert my pcmcia card into my laptop it recongizes it then gives me a "ne0:where did the card go?"
<13> any ideas other than making a custom kernel with "ne2 at pcmcia0 function 0"
<13> cause that doesnt work
<13> or "ne0 at pcmcia0..."etc
<13> im sad cause it works with openbsd and freebsd
<13> :(
<14> ||Bravo: What kind of laptop?


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