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<0> great
<0> splashscreens for my vax
<1> uh?
<0> i'd offer to make an honest...man out you, but you'd tire of me; then i'd be left with my nitting
<0> Radware++ && goodnight
<2> jmcneill: re getting rid of NeXT, it won't boot and I'm not sure why
<2> it hangs at "mounting remote filesystems", I can ctrl-C past that
<2> then I get another message about filesystems and the box doesn't go any further
<2> lemme grab the message
<3> mmm, NeXT..
<3> i wish i had a dimension board for mine..
<2> this is a TurboColor
<2> it'd be a great machine if I could boot it :)
<2> it stalls on "Starting file service daemons:"
<2> hmm, I wonder if I can boot it single user
<3> ahh...
<1> Hrm, I can't find my MacOS 8.6 CD :(
<4> argh
<5> beeee
<4> need to find some excel wizardry
<5> what's excel?
<4> spreadsheet?
<1> mspwned!
<6> File handles have been made opaque to userland and the arbitrary size limit on them has been removed. [Martin Husemann]
<6> that's huge
<6> what's up, kids?
<6> so I think my next c project will be a network client that does nothing
<6> to contrast my server that does nothing :)
<6> and then, maybe, extend one of those into something
<6> and now that I've said that, none of those will happen
<5> so
<5> question for ya, is the network i'm moving into your experimental network?
<6> experimental?
<6> MadScribe- you overestimate my studiousness
<5> will i find sticky notes that say "network might be down today, i'm trying to do x-y-z"
<6> if by experiment you mean, downloading porn
<6> then yes
<6> no
<6> the most x, y, and z I ever do is upgrade the router
<6> rarely
<5> i c
<6> so I was learning how to harness my chi energy today
<6> and I learned that the "c" sound makes your arms weak
<4> hard c or soft c?
<6> soft
<4> anyone have graphics editing fu?
<4> I need to figure out how to turn various shades of blue into various shades of red.
<6> aberrant- automatically?
<4> mspo: yeah
<4> just switch the blue component to red, and I think that'll do it.
<6> libgd?
<4> checking.
<4> perhaps xv would do it
<6> maybe
<4> if I could find it... :(
<7> hi
<7> i looked on the supported hardware list, i do not see any 3ware 9500 raid card listed
<7> anyone to confirm or deny my ***ertation
<8> twe* at pci? dev ? function ? # 3ware Escalade RAID controllers
<8> twa* at pci? dev ? function ? # 3ware Escalade 9xxx RAID controllers
<7> Aye
<7> Maybe I am having a hardware conflict.
<9> anyone want to talk politics for a bit?
<6> reuben- you're just hankering?
<9> just shootin breeze
<9> my official policy on irc is to not give a ****
<9> email too
<6> my view of politics has pretty much degraded into "Some people like to kill other people, and some other people don't."
<6> that's on foreign policy
<6> on domestic
<9> are all non-static methods necessarily instance methods?
<6> "Some people don't care if they're killing other people, and some people do."
<6> reuben- that's not politics :)
<6> or maybe it is
<6> I don't know the answer
<9> oops, i got side tracked
<6> it would seem true
<9> on global policy, i think dr hawking has it right: how can the human race survive?
<9> on domestic policy, i wonder: what are we teaching ourselves to be?
<6> dr hawking should see the larger picture
<9> and on foreign policy, all the killing is indeed getting old
<6> who cares if the human race survives?
<9> mspo: ok, what is the larger picture?
<6> reuben- if we're lucky enough to survive, the sun will eventually eat us :)
<9> mspo: if we aren't star-faring by that age, then we deserve to die
<6> ;)
<6> I like the whole idea
<6> that which makes all life possible
<6> we have calculated when it will kill us no matter what
<6> which means, humans don't want to survive
<6> or we wouldn't have figured out when survival was impossible :)
<9> all it took to kill off 80% of life before was an insignificant little bump from an asteroid
<9> and then again in a similar proportion
<9> geologists don't think large animals made it past that barrior, they had to evolve to be big again
<9> barrier
<7> thats a biased statement
<9> one of those would snuff us, not to mention larger events that would still be insignificant in the cosmic frame
<9> mspo: if we know, then we know how soon we need to find a new apartment
<9> mspo: if we didn't know, then we'd be playing russian roulette. is it somehow less life affirming to deal with the facts?
<8> reuben: we *are* insignificant in the cosmic frame :)
<9> carneous: we don't know that for sure
<7> how so carneous ?
<8> why are we so special?
<9> carneous: how are we not so special?
<6> I agree with carneous
<6> we're dumb
<9> carneous: i didn't claim we were significant, you claimed we were insignificant
<6> smart animals see the big picture :)
<6> they live, eat, breed, and die
<9> mspo: when i asked about that, you said it is futile because sun go boom
<6> when the world ends, they may show up on another world to do the same thing
<6> reuben- running away from earth just creates the same problem
<6> reuben- the only solution is to embrace it
<9> mspo: i don't see how an event billions of years in the future means we won't survive and move on to bigger and better things
<9> mspo: with the timeframe we have, it doesn't even have to be a jog
<8> heh, better things
<6> plants have it figured out, if you ask me
<8> we'll have to leave this earth long before then, after it is completely poisoned
<9> personally, i forsee not a dull doomed future, but a bizarre and weird roller coaster of a ride future
<9> we'll solve the poison problem, but invent problems we can't even imagine at this time
<9> then again, we have not lived up to the predictions of the 1950's
<6> yeah, real life moves slowly
<9> i read an article about a m***ive dead zone off the edge of the pacific coast, especially by here in oregon
<6> back then, you could fabricate anything from petrochemicals with minimal warfare :)
<9> water with very close to 0% oxygen is being pushed up and leaving carnage behind
<9> dead things all over the ocean floor, fish fleeing to environments they don't normally live in
<6> cool
<9> 5th year in a row, but worse this year than in the past
<9> this sort of thing scares me more than magic koolaid being taken onto air planes
<9> if i was looking for something to be scared of
<9> the surreal part is that after a quote from a scientist about how depressing it is to view the carnage go on and on, the article said "but don't worry about the safety of seafood, because all seafood is captured live."
<9> my only concern is whether my lobster gives me the runs, who gives a **** about the drastic sudden ecological changes
<9> i think dr hawkings asks a very good question, and it would do people in general some good to think in his terms
<8> reuben: unfortunately,, not only are we insignificant, we are bred consumers
<6> so if there's no oxygen in the water, what's in it?
<8> and I say, bring on the cleansing apocalypse, whatever its form
<8> earth needs a reinstall
<9> mspo: there is bacteria feeding on the carnage, which is what brought the oxygen from 0.whatever% down to 0.evenless%
<6> reinstall?
<9> carneous: i'll fire up my car
<8> seems to me we don't need to worry about the sun consuming us; were gonna kill each other long before that happens
<9> carneous: why don't you come over here and **** on the exhaust pipe and just get it over with
<6> carneous- nature and weather simply exist, they don't exist to service humans or anything else :)
<6> reuben- was it full of carbon dioxide?
<6> reuben- or something else some type of plant would process?
<8> mspo: nature and weather? eh?
<6> maybe it's very rich for something else
<9> mspo: i don't think plants live that deep down
<9> most plants live as near the surface as a person can swim down
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