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<0> kernel panics, bad sectors, can't run the cd?
<0> he's gone thought
<1> hi
<1> I recently installed netbsd hpcsh on my jornada 620lx and although I have the system running I was wondering if it was possible to add some programs to it
<1> I don't even have vi
<2> www.pkgsrc.org
<1> is there a way to include certain files to the kernel so that when is booted it installs those files as well?
<3> I think that guy was just running hpcsh miniroot :)
<4> hi there!
<2> hello
<1> hi there!
<1> I have a minimal kernel of less than 1 meg. I install it from WinCE using hpcboot.exe and I would like to include some more files to the installation, how do I do that?
<1> do I need to p*** some parameters to the kernel?
<3> you mean you're using the miniroot?
<1> yes
<3> use an nfs root
<1> TGEN: I don't have a NetBSD box, I only have a lnux box and windows
<1> linux*
<3> I heard Linux and Windows could run NFS servers as well
<1> yes
<1> the thing is that I don't know much about nfs and was wondering if by copying the base file and all onto the CF I would be able to load them files into the installation
<1> or at least make them available to my miniroot fs
<1> since that's the only thing I can start on my 620lx
<1> is there anything I could specify in the kernel options?
<1> extra kernel options
<3> TheProphe: no, but you can create a larger root image
<3> TheProphe: or union mount a filesystem on e.g. compactflash on /
<1> when I manage to start my miniroot, can I mount the compact flash? is union mount different?
<3> a union mount 'combines' one filesystem with whatever is already present in the directory tree
<3> e.g. it overlaps
<1> i just need to find the name of the CF device and union mount it on my miniroot then?
<1> the problem is I don't even get the man pages on a miniroot
<5> man, all this 9/11 remembered stuff is weird
<5> it's like they're just going to replay the whole day of news
<6> good thing I'm not working on video stuff today :)
<5> for real
<5> it would be a pretty depressing day
<7> well, it's good to remember
<7> a lot of Americans have already started to forget what happened
<7> watching the people jump out of the burning towers is something that will remain etched in my brain forever
<8> yep, the joys of the information society
<5> damn it
<3> mspo: I've been trying to evade this 9/11 crap for a week now
<3> but every day some idiot hits me in the face with it
<7> well, i'm sure there will be minimal conversation here
<3> it's like meat you left on a plate outside for a week
<7> just don't go to #politics and you'll be fine, you can forget and do as you please
<3> #politics?
<5> TGEN- for living in europe, you seem really in-touch in us news
<5> is it bbc world?
<3> mspo: I try to read as much news and opinion articles as I can
<7> TGEN: a decidely right leaning political discussion channel
<7> granted, you guys think our democrats lean right
<5> our current dems do!
<3> I have BBC world, but I don't watch TV, except for fighting movies with very poor acting
<5> mm The Story of Riki
<7> i'm a moderate, just depends on the subject
<3> but I am subscribed to NRC Handelsblad and de Volkskrant, which are the two most objective papers in our country
<3> MadScribe: well, it's on EF, so there's bound to be a pretty american focus in there
<5> wow, objective news
<3> mspo: most objective, there is some bias in both, but not much
<7> well a lot of people here define their entire being based on party affliation, being a moderate of course you get accussed of being indecisive
<3> mspo: NRC leans a bit to the right, Volkskrant a bit to the left
<3> (our left, which is what McCarthy would call communist extremists ;))
<7> as for news i watch Fox and listen to National Public Radio (bbc, etc)
<5> and your right?
<3> MadScribe: that's ****ed up
<3> our biggest right-wing party would be comparable to te democrats
<7> and that might be a stretch
<3> though there are several splinter parties who're more right wing, those that all claim to be the One True Continuation of the Ideology of that bald fag that got killed a couple of years ago ;)
<7> from what i've seen and heard, most Euro "right wing" people come off as what we consider Liberal
<3> MadScribe: yes, they're pretty liberal
<3> but, well, it's not exactly liek your liberals
<5> I should move to europe
<7> heh
<3> also, we have the christian democrats, who (say they) are both social/leftist and right
<3> pretty conservative too
<7> well #politics is a fun fest for me b/c i can tick off anyone at anytime, i'm pro-life, pro-legalization (of drugs) for instance
<7> so i can anger both the left and right at the same time
<7> well in a few sentences
<3> what's 'pro-life'?
<5> anti-abortion
<3> that you want to live forever?
<3> oh
<7> heh
<3> I'm pro-no-one-should-tell-you-what-to-do
<8> hey, don't speak ill of the divine bald paedophile
<3> meaning, pregnant women get to decide to abort or not
<3> not some redneck jack*** president
<5> michie1 is a scientologist
<3> ;)
<7> anywho, let's not get bogged down in political debates here
<7> that was just a "for instance"
<3> MadScribe: well, it's all fun and games in here
<3> I can imagine people in #politics to act all religious about their opinion on things
<7> they can, they usually get embarrased
<7> one thing I agree with never doing is basing a political position on religion
<3> I'm not sure what the tolerance level is for individualistic anarchist extremists ;)
<3> MadScribe: hmm, isn't about 99% of your political system based on christianity?
<8> I don't believe the Yanks have many sunday closing laws
<8> so it's not *that* bad
<7> if they can make a coherent argument w/o using unproven comments or linking to known liberal sites they are ok, but just making random unproven statements and ***ertions gets you banned in short order
<5> TGEN- 99% is based on british
<3> christian values, morals, laws, etc
<3> and the "one nation under god" thing
<7> TGEN: some moral ***ertions make logical sense
<3> but maybe I'm wrong, and 'god' is just slang for 'dollar'
<3> ;)
<3> michie1: I know, and the troonrede :(
<3> at least you don't have to swear on a bible here
<8> the fact is, we used to have Christian fundies that make the Yanks look like Baal worshippers
<3> (though you can if you like ;))
<8> we still do, only they're a minority now :)
<3> SGP you mean?
<3> Bas van der Vlies is very progressive
<3> or Vlist
<3> or whatever
<8> Vlies, I thin
<8> +k
<8> and he is, he believes that women, in some exceptional cases, should be allowed to participate in politics
<3> I think he's even more progressive than that, but sees that he must convince his backing slowly
<1> re all
<1> I'm trying to mount the CF card on my miniroot fs with mount -t msdos -r /dev/wd0a /mnt/CF but I get the error Device not configured, what do I need to configure?
<6> Do you have a /sbin/mount_msdos ?
<1> yes
<6> Does 'sysctl vfs.generic.fstypes' list msdos?
<1> Shaded: sysctl: not found
<1> Shaded: ls /sbin/mount_msdos finds it though
<6> Sorry, /sbin/sysctl
<6> vfs.generic.fstypes lists the filesystems that the running kernel supports
<1> I just don't have that file
<1> sorry
<6> No sysctl? strange.
<1> even for a miniroot?
<6> Not sure that's on miniroot.
<6> What kernel have you booted?
<6> Show me 'uname -a' output, please.
<1> hpcsh
<6> Mmm, I have one of those :)
<1> cool!
<6> Jornada 690
<1> I'm using it on 620lx
<6> I prepared my entire CF card using my laptop, and it was plug-and-play after that..
<1> sure, but I don't think my 620lx supports that and I don't have a laptop or card reader unfortunately
<6> ah, that could make things difficult
<1> that's why I'm trying to do it by putting the files in my CF and then mounting it from the miniroot
<1> it's not partition either
<6> So what kernel is running?
<6> INSTALL? GENERIC?
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