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<0> thanks
<0> c is weird
<1> is it?
<2> C is an odd language indeed.. but a beautiful one
<2> :)
<1> ow is it odd?
<1> how
<2> there is almost nothing to it.. it has a very small builtin namespace and yet its one of the most powerful languages known
<1> "very small builtin namespace" sounds like the things done elsewhere are a feature :)
<1> FWIW, the exact "very small" namespace made it easy for me to debug C, in contrast to stuff like C++
<1> where you never know the exact context of a variable or function, without digging a cl*** tree up and down
<2> :)
<2> agreed
<2> my code is finished.. bedtime
<3> er, anyone know if firefox2 is supposed to have problems with the security component?
<4> yes
<4> it will format your c: drive
<5> sweet
<5> pppoe(4) is very easy to set up
<5> (just turned my dsl router into a bridge so I don't have to deal with its crappy port forwarding anymore)
<6> yes, it is trivial
<6> and works nicely :)
<5> yup
<5> just retired my ultra 1 into test machine status, it'd been my router for years
<5> now the netra is pppoe/ipf/ipnat/dhcp
<6> dive: btw, I use max-auth-failure=0 in the pppoectl call (in ifconfig.pppoe0) so that ifwatchd doesn't give up in the event of an long outage..
<5> good idea
<5> checking out pkgsrc is taking a while on this netra :p
<5> need to install lynx so I can run my dyndns update thingie
<5> do you use the mss clamping option as well?
<5> I set mine up with that, as the docs told me to
<6> net.inet.tcp.mss_ifmtu=1 ?
<5> no, the ipnat option
<6> that and "max-mss 1440" as a scrub option in pf.conf
<5> (from the docs) map pppoe0 192.168.1.0/24 -> 0/32 portmap tcp/udp 44000:49999 mssclamp 1440
<5> oh, you're using pf
<5> I stuck with ipf so I would only have to do s/hme1/pppoe0/g to copy my old config ;)
<6> yum :)
<5> I still find it amusing that this dsl modem/router runs some embedded version of freebsd
<5> when I was looking for info on turning it into a bridge, I found a hack to get it to allow ssh (which involved a much much older firmware so I didn't mess with it)
<6> sounds nasty indeed
<6> freebsd never got kernel pppoe, which is odd
<5> the web interface on it was pretty, but slow as hell, and nasty for setting up port forwarding or anything like it
<5> really? I figured freebsd would've had it
<6> you would think so, seeing as how well it works
<6> (kernel pppoe, that is :p)
<5> heh, netbsd's pppoe takes about 5-10 seconds to get online, as opposed to the freebsd-based whatever pppoe in the dsl router if I tell it just to reset the pppoe
<5> which takes up to a minute
<4> is it gay for two guys to *********e together?
<4> even just as friends?
<7> hello
<7> anyone knows a good firewall for netbsd?
<8> ipf
<8> pf too
<8> depends on what functionality you expect in a firewall
<7> are there any good howto's , Kralian make my desktop pc safe, no intruders simple
<8> I would say I've seen lots of good documentation on it
<8> if you search for 'ipfilter' you'll find a good % of it
<7> i cant find any "newbie" one
<8> http://www.securityfocus.com/infocus/1378 perhaps?
<7> hmm thank you
<7> you think that is good enough?
<7> pf is an openbsd thing right?
<8> haven't read it
<8> was the first link google gave me ,)
<8> pf works on netbsd too
<7> jhehe
<7> it is from 2000 :)
<9> hmm, does anyone happen to know how to get netbsd pam to log to syslog?
<9> or anywhere, really, I just want the thing to be more verbose
<6> michiel_: authlog?
<9> jep, but it doesn't spew anything there
<9> even if I modify syslog.conf to spew auth.* messages in there
<0> dive- I told you that bridge mode things was easy
<0> dive- I use ddclient and netbsd's ftp to do my dynamic dns stuff. No need for lynx
<0> michiel_- isn't it's *.auth?
<0> like local.auth, daemon.auth?
<0> etc
<9> not sure if *.auth is a level, but auth.* is certainly a category
<9> but I was able to help it by adding *.debug
<9> apparently, pam outputs its warnings as debug messages
<9> (fair enough, as I'm actually trying to debug an application)
<0> okay
<10> hi
<10> someone here knows how to make irssi work with /usr/pkg/bin/iconv instead of /usr/bin/iconv?
<7> HMM
<1> echo USE_BUILTIN.libiconv=no >>/etc/mk.conf, and make sure irssi uses the libiconv/builtin.mk
<1> (or something...)
<1> or set PREFER.iconv=pkgsrc
<1> that's probably better
<11> anyone remember that url about jail software for NetBSD ??
<1> sysjail
<1> http://www.feyrer.de/NetBSD/blog.html?-tags=sysjail
<11> its not in pkg yet ?
<12> speaking of jail I need to get some chrooting done for a couple of accounts I don't trust
<13> hubertEF: hmm ok
<13> hubertEF: thanks, I'll try one of these
<11> is sysjail the way you want to do it, if you want to give 1 external user access to use your box for just 1 thing... ie he ssh's in and is then restricted to doing 1 thing ?
<11> or can you do that with chroot ?
<9> you can even do that by limiting the shell
<9> how easy it is depends on what you want to allow that user to do
<11> just want him to be able to log in and run 1 or 2 programs
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