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<0> heyhey
<1> mornin' jared
<2> morning Shaded
<2> what tool should i use to capture a port i've mirrored?
<2> without routing the **** back out
<2> i guess give it no IP
<3> "capture"
<3> ?
<3> well, I'm going to work
<3> tcpdump :)
<0> what's the good word?
<2> yes tcpdump
<2> but if i mirror a port..
<2> my tcpstack will barf and spew on all the bad ****
<2> and spew back onto the network?
<2> unless i guess i dont ***ign an IP address
<2> to the interface
<2> maybe im overanalyzing this
<3> I'm not sure about port mirroring
<3> but I don't know why the tcpdump from one interface would go out another
<3> unless you were displaying it or redirecting it that way
<2> not out another
<2> but think of icmp errors
<2> and tcp etc
<2> back out..
<3> okay..
<3> so you're going to replay the traffic?
<2> no
<2> i dont wish to
<2> scared i will
<2> ok working
<2> no IP
<2> no worries
<3> mmm deer-sausage burrito
<2> wtf
<2> sudo tethereal -i eth1 -w 2mb -b filesize:1024 -b files:1000
<2> after the first file at 1MB
<2> it reates 4KB files
<2> creates
<3> weird
<2> bah
<2> http://bugs.ethereal.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=895
<2> and wireshark isnt on ubuntu
<2> dodgy
<2> grr
<1> isn't wireshark commercial?
<2> really!
<2> it's in edgy
<2> not dapper
<1> que dices?
<2> meh
<2> shrug
<1> non habla ubuntanol
<2> word
<4> ethereal is commercial
<2> ill compile it
<4> wireshark is its open-source avatar
<1> ah
<2> oh
<1> heya dsr
<4> hello TGEN
<5> hola folks
<1> ahoy hoy MadScribe
<5> so, what's the argument for actually using sudo?
<5> it just seems if you can login as me, you can sudo as me
<3> sudo is for root
<3> I don't think you can sudo stuff for another user
<3> you'd have to wrap it as a script with an su - username -c "cmd"
<3> MadScribe- the argument for sudo is that you want to give some users access to a command they wouldn't normally be able to run
<3> because it runs that command as root
<3> or you can eliminate sharing a root p***word and still give someone root access if you give them sudo to a shell or ALL
<5> well, like on ubu box, i want to install stuff, i issue sudo and my p***word
<3> right
<5> on my netbsd box i at least have to open shell as root
<3> because you're running the command as root
<5> which requires me knowing the root p***word
<3> you can change sudo to not ask for the p***word
<5> nvm, i think i see what is intended
<5> the idea is that these individuals are "trusted" i guess
<3> NOP***WD is the option
<3> yeah
<3> they ask for their p***word as a form of identity ***ertion, nor authentication
<3> knowing your own p***word helps prove you're you instead of you being an unlocked desktop
<3> or a compromised ssh key
<3> or whatever
<3> s/nor/not
<6> im having problem booting netbsd
<6> <6> it's an old P100
<6> <6> booting hd0a:netbsd - starting in 10 9 8
<6> <6> open netbsd: No such file or directory
<6> <6> but the file is there
<6> <6> anyone want to help? i appreciate it
<3> are you sure it's on hd0a?
<6> i just tried it on a faster machine, it works now
<1> mebsd: the speed shouldn't be the issue
<1> mebsd: what bootable disks does the bootloader print?
<7> hi all
<8> is there already a release candidate out for netbsd 3.2 ?
<6> i can't mount my usb flas drive
<6> fabricating a geometry
<6> what that mean
<2> anyone use snort?
<2> is there some license thing that means no OS packages past 2.4?
<2> oh that is latest release
<8> does pkg_info list packages from date when added?
<2> though they publish for current (2.6)
<3> yeled- I've compiled and installed snort
<2> heh
<2> so not pkgsrc?
<3> oh, I think it's in there
<3> this was on solaris
<9> its cooler to compile yer own ;)
<10> snort 2.6 is in freebsd ports -- and it has had releases on that branch
<10> there is no reason not to include it in pkgsrc unless it fails miserably on any random number of platforms :) (which is possible)
<8> does pkg_info list packages from date when added?
<11> "from date when added"?
<8> uhm i mean, in order from installed
<11> i don't think so
<11> it probably just does a opendir/readdir in /var/db/pkg
<11> no sorting
<11> funny enough, I don't think pkg_foo notes the date/time when a pkg is installed
<7> i mean, does pkg_info list packages in order from when it was installed, from first to last package added
<11> no.
<7> looks like it
<7> does
<11> delete the first pkg onthe list & reinstall it
<11> then see
<7> yes, its now at the bottum
<7> so it looks like it does
<2> jontow_: oh i just saw 2.4 there too
<2> i may fiddle this weekend
<2> night &
<3> I just found a weird behavior in ssh 4.x
<3> it tries to close file descriptors upto your ulimit whenever it tries to open a proc
<3> it's really weird
<11> s3k000r1ty!!!1!
<3> NedBeasty- well, so far isn't solaris 8 specific
<3> NedBeasty- but it might be worth checking on a netbsd box
<3> how do you stop ktrace? I forget
<3> got it
<3> netbsd isn't affected
<3> looks like a problem with the solaris 8 pkg
<3> we have
<3> which is suprisingly similar to a solaris 8 bug in prstat that allocates memory based on the rlimit :)
<3> okay, I'm out
<2> re
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