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<0> so I figured out why the drive was puking on UDMA5
<1> http://www.feyrer.de/NetBSD/blog.html/nb_20060703_0043.html
<2> TGEN:
<3> oops, did I do that?
<4> Yes
<5> thanks riz
<5> $_
<3> I'm on a roll here, folks
<3> now back to fighting with leeeeeenucks
<5> on the soekrises?
<3> nah. I _should_ probably be working on that
<3> but I'm playing with mythtv
<3> dammnit
<3> you distracted me, and now my default language is portuguese
<5> I think Shaded mentioned he ported MythTV to NetBSD
<3> only the frontend
<5> hmm
<3> heh, uh oh. I'm having a harder than expected time getting this back to a language I understand :)
<3> ah, there we go.
<3> now, to head back to the TV
<5> well, you could stick to portuguese and book a vacation to brazil
<4> Or Greece
<5> I doubt portuguese helps much in greece
<5> ;)
<4> :)
<6> www mythtv
<3> aww, it's not so bad
<7> the UI is awful
<0> thanks, riz. (just back from the zoo)
<0> we saw penguins and I had to remind myself that it's bad to hate them
<8> http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/index.cfm?email&NewsID=15074
<3> aberrant: heh
<9> jeua
<9> heya
<9> :)
<10> mmmmhmmyea
<9> I just had an idea on the way how
<9> home
<9> damn
<9> anyway, why doesn't NetBSD and/or the pkgsrc have an ISV-coordination equivalent?
<9> for example, we want full-time java support
<9> we can't just petition, etc
<9> we need to have some people setup who can help
<8> ISV?
<8> independant software vendor?
<9> yeah
<9> I was thinking about how red hat talked about their influence over software companies
<8> advocacy@ should
<9> they don't have it just because they're big
<9> but because they've built relationships and are willing to do certain things
<9> I think pkgsrc does a lot of that with open source software by providing, fixing, etc
<9> but it doesn't seem to extend beyond smaller open-source apps
<11> pkgsrc rocks
<11> but i have to use windows
<9> use pkgsrc on windows
<11> why
<11> it only rocks in *nix
<11> windows got too many binary ready to use
<8> for windows just use Cygwin
<9> yeah, me too
<9> I don't even use pkgsrc on my mac :)
<11> why would i want linux when there's windows
<11> windows xp
<9> are you talking about cygwin?
<9> anyway, that was my idea
<11> isn't cygwin the linux on windows?
<9> to create an isv-relations@
<9> yeah, it's linux apps on windows
<9> it's a nice, free X-windows environment
<9> which is good when you're a unix SA
<11> but what GUI linux application can be better than equivalent on windows
<9> I like rxvt (natively compiled) and openssh better than putty or securecrt
<9> mebsd- the oracle installer for solaris
<11> ok, ssh and telnet
<9> I'm not saying I like to run gtk-gaim over trillian
<9> but having X is essential for my job
<9> and, unfortunately, so is having outlook and visio
<11> you can run thunderbird
<11> on windows
<9> yes, it interacts flawlessly with the outlook calendar, event notifier, public folders, etc
<8> Cygwin is a POSIX compatability later for windows
<8> not "the linux on windows"
<8> that's like when someone's coughing and you say "You gots tha SARSs"
<11> what is POSIX
<8> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0201433079/ref=sr_11_1/102-0674171-4019343?ie=UTF8 <--- READ
<11> is linux POSIX compat? is netbsd?
<9> http://www.netbsd.org/Foundation/press/theopengroup-grant.html
<12> good night
<13> toodaloo
<14> sup hmz
<15> http://volny.cz/ropucha_3000/hitlatuma.swf
<16> hi
<16> is emanuel dreyfuss on irc anywhere?
<15> who?
<5> manu
<5> afaik he's not
<5> he might be on ICB
<5> or on Lilonode
<16> TGEN: what is icb or lilonode?
<5> neologism: 'Internet CB', and Lilonode is an IRC network on which the most annoying person is named 'lilo'
<16> is he online?
<16> he has not responded to my mail I sent him yesterday
<5> afaik he's not there either
<9> damnit, my desk was moved and now I'm all discombobulated
<16> :(
<5> regarding the mail, I guess you'll have to be patient
<5> and hope his spam filter didn't eat it :)
<16> he used to respond very fast
<16> I offered him code he wanted :)
<17> heh, as long as it wasn't moved out the door
<9> MadAtWork- well, I used to sit in the corner
<9> MadAtWork- and now I sit in a little group very close to some offices
<17> things could be worse
<9> indeed
<18> hi there
<18> any sparc64 guru ? :)
<18> http://pastebin.ca/77751, i don't really see why it fails
<18> if (SPARC_MACHINE_OPENFIRMWARE != bmagic) {
<18> printf("No bootinfo information.\n"
<18> well, i don't see why bmagic is null
<5> maybe you need to update your bootblocks?
<18> hm
<18> the full story is, i installed netbsd 3.0 on a netra x1, built a current
<18> and i get that error when trying to boot on the new kernel before updating the userland
<18> how do i update the bootblock ? installboot ?
<5> yes
<5> iirc the installboot(8) manpage even mentions sparc64 examples
<5> _aki: it's possible the interface between the bootloader changed between 3.0 and -current
<18> ah, ok
<18> i'm gonna check the installboot manpage, thanks
<16> TGEN: does he use icq or something?
<5> neologism: I wouldn't kno
<5> +w
<16> ok, thnx
<9> <yawn>
<9> so my boss and entire work group are on vacation today
<19> i just finished a robert heinlein book: farmer in the sky
<19> not a bad book, i am kind of surprised to read about terraforming in something that's copyright 1950
<19> also surprised that something originally published in episodes in boy's life goes into the economics and politics of colonialization
<9> mm old books
<9> john steinbeck
<9> In Dubious Battle ++
<5> Heinlein is good
<9> reuben- people in the 50's were very aware of politics. Especially the movement of countries
<9> reuben- see WW2 :)
<9> http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2006/06/the_newbies_guide_to_detecting.html
<0> damnit.
<0> I'd like to shoot the in-house developers
<0> "but we NEED telnet"
<0> back to the politics. BBIAB.
<9> of course you need telnet
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