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<0> Ok - I'm helping Skeelow on a private channel. He's got a mess and it's handy to be able to paste w/o flooding things or messing with pastebin.
<1> ^DX^: Get courier-imapd, which also has a POP3-server.
<2> according to inetd.conf I already have pop3/pop3s/imap2/imaps running
<2> pointing at /usr/sbin/popd
<2> how do I add users?
<3> adduser? ldapadd? how are your users added?
<3> errr managed>
<2> adduser
<3> so add system users for your pop accounts
<2> how do I disable shell access though?
<3> change their shell to /bin/false or /sbin/nologin or something valid from /etc/shells
<3> vipw
<3> or chsh
<2> thanks a lot
<3> np
<4> anyone that know something about enabeling DMA in linux?
<3> hdparm
<5> -d
<3> -qwell
<0> ruffe - hdparm works, but some distros have an option in /etc/sysconfig to do it permanently.
<4> HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
<0> ruffe - do it as root.
<4> was rot
<4> root
<0> May not be supported by the driver or some such then. What device did you try to set it on?
<4> hdparm -c1d1X66 /dev/hdc
<0> Try each option one at a time and see which ones work
<4> ND-6500A
<4> it's d1 that don't work
<0> What controller are you using? Any idea?
<5> ruffe: does -d by itself say it's off?
<5> no reason to chase a problem that doesn't exist in the first place
<4> 915GM
<4> ?
<4> Qwell, and by that you mean?
<5> hdparm -d /dev/hdc
<4> doesn't work
<5> umm
<5> it should
<0> What does hdparm /dev/hdc return?
<0> Normally -d is included in that list
<4> /dev/hdc:
<4> IO_support = 1 (32-bit)
<4> unmaskirq = 0 (off)
<4> using_dma = 0 (off)
<4> keepsettings = 0 (off)
<4> readonly = 0 (off)
<4> readahead = 256 (on)
<4> HDIO_GETGEO failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
<6> NO PASTING
<4> k
<5> no pastel either
<6> ruffe: use uuoc.com or pastebin.com if it's more than a line or 2
<7> Mjolnir: theres a lot of lakes that we can use... the problem with the great lakes is that it gets really messy during bad weather... :S
<8> hey thanks for that set ruler tip...
<8> vim doesnt support it nvi does which i managed to smuggle onto this rhe box nicely
<9> what version of vim doesn't suport ruler?
<5> bougyman: 0.96
<9> heh
<10> qwell[]
<10> it's going to cost me about $100 to fly home again in a few weeks :P~
<0> YEah. We just need one a few miles long
<0> However we can avoid bad weather.
<7> theres a lake near me, but thats a long ways for you... and we're limited to a 2-3 month test window
<7> and theres no sufficient landing space
<7> I've been to the great lakes... theyre not very calm
<0> Yeah
<0> There are places around here we could theoretically test.
<7> we should find another one, perhaps closer to you... where do you live? somewhere where we have > 3 months of test time
<7> yea
<0> I'm much more familiar with getting FAA waivers than trying to manipulate whatever the Canadian aviation authority is.
<7> canadian aviation == uhm, whats a plane?
<7> hehe
<0> I live in central Virginia. Look for Roanoke, VA on Mapquest. I'm thinking that NC has a flatter area available though.
<7> FAA does a lot of control in canada too, but still
<0> I'd have to ask around to find what it takes to get waivers up there.
<0> Probably it's a bigger mess than here.
<7> yea, agreed
<0> I know their model rocketry regs are stricter.
<7> plus, more tinker time down there
<4> i'm not able to enable dma, is it possible that i don't have chipset driver installed?
<0> Yeah. I'd get with the NC rocketry crowd and work with their waivers. That'd give us 8000 feet to do whatever the hell we wanted and a 4 hour window to 12000 feet.
<0> ruffe - quite possible, but there are other reasons as well.
<7> thatd do it
<7> thatd be enough for 1 attempt at least
<4> i can't play DVD without dma
<7> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=Roanoke,+VA&ie=UTF8&ll=34.685734,-76.545868&spn=0.336513,0.723724&om=1
<7> hmmmm
<8> bougyman as far as i can tell standard redhatish vim-minimal rpms do not support ruler :(
<7> probably too windy since its the ocean, but those sounds look like they could block a significant ammount of waves
<0> It got the wrong place.
<7> no no, just scrolling around
<0> Hold...
<0> No ocean anywhere close.
<9> vim-minimal would be bad
<7> jacksoneville NC, out at the ocean
<8> yes its horrid and i need the character position to write files that db2 can eat up
<0> Our usually flying area is around Whittakers, NC.
<7> ah, haha
<0> Also, spring and fall we fly at Battle Park, Va
<0> But they have crops in during the summer.
<7> yea, we just need something out of a flight path that we can get clearence
<7> 8000 ft would be OK
<7> we would need to test every component, 1 by one...
<7> perhaps even test fire the rocket off a cesna to check the launch mechanism, and see how much it pulls the clamps (if at all)
<7> we need to put together a professional looking research package to see how 'possible' it is, so we can start finding sponsors
<0> I could ground-launch the rocket.
<7> yea,
<7> I'm thinking super-stubby wings, that are decently long, just so it retains altitude
<0> In fact, I'll talk to my club and maybe we can put the rocket together over the next few months. Actually, Jim probably has a couple we could use right now.
<7> there we go ;0
<7> :)
<7> the real $$ will be in the launch vehicle
<0> Remember this - rockets like the sidewinder missle etc. fly horizontally with standard fins.
<0> Doing this is not difficult.
<7> I dont just want to cheat, and strap a clamp onto a cesna... :P
<7> yea, thats true :)
<11> when upgrading a kernel can i use the old config file to compile or do i need to make a new one
<0> I don't want to launch off of a real plane. Too much can go wrong.
<7> for the first prototypes, well do standard fins, but when we get a return mechanism well need wings
<0> statickao How much of an upgrade?
<11> 2.6.16-r9 to 2.6.17-r4
<0> Yeah. If you want to glide down. However some of the NC group already has this.
<7> well, yes and no. :S with a real plane your right there with it to fix malfunctions, but you can take down your own plane... I think it would be much nicer if it was from an RC plane
<0> Oh, you can probably pull the config file then and do it. It's stored as /proc/config.gz
<11> is it safe?
<7> statickao: in the new linux source dir, theres a util that can extract it if theres no /proc/config.gz
<7> statickao: oh yes, very safe
<7> statickao: cp /proc/config.gz .
<0> As safe as building the kernel.
<7> gunzip config.gz
<0> Idle` If you ever get down here I'll have to show you some RC boost gliders - go up like a rocket and then use RC control to glide back down.
<7> Mjolnir: for now, I think a parachute return is going to be fine
<0> Yeah, same here.
<7> yea, I've seen those
<7> heres one problem tho
<0> Need GPS tracking though. We'll have stuff coming down all over the place.
<7> it needs to decelerate... it doesn't have gravity for that...
<0> Oh, it'll decelerate. Don't worry about that.
<7> we're going to need some kinda airbrakes otherwise the chute will tear
<0> Actually, no.
<0> Drag at that kind of speed is horrific. turn off the engine and you'll drop down to 200-300mph very rapidly.
<7> ah, :)
<0> Then a standard drogue and main recovery will work just fine.
<7> well, I knew at high speed
<7> but I thought at 6 -> 300mph it would mostly cruise
<7> yea, thatll do it :D
<0> Actually, after all the fuel is burnt, terminal velocity will probably be closer to 150
<7> we want it to decelerate before it looses too much altitude, otherwise we're going to end up with a lawn dart
<0> Main thing is we won't have much in the way of weight. Where things get complex is when you start trying to carry a warhead like Hezbola. The forces involved in doing that are a lot larger.
<7> yea, thats true
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