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<0> try it now
<0> looks like its working from here... is it?
<1> working
<0> is it echoing when you talk to it?
<1> about 100-200 ms echo delay
<0> hot
<0> thanks man
<1> I was using kphone, it lamed up my audio, wtf
<0> ouch
<1> fixed
<1> seemed to have dropped the sample rate
<0> ah
<0> well, I'm happy it works
<0> however, it may be a pita if theyre not nat'd before
<0> yea, I'm gonna leave that on for now... I also have 'brian@' for calls to me... :P
<1> hmmm



<1> is the echo delay itself an indicator of latency?
<1> longer echo=more latency?
<0> yea
<1> tried again with a different softphone, the delay was longer
<0> if you listen to the opening info, it says how it works. instantly replays it as soon as it gets it
<0> could be more processing delay in that other phone
<1> I have a funny feeling these sftwre phones are dropping me to 8bit audio
<0> could be
<2> What program can open p***wordded rars in debian
<2> arc and archive manager don't support p***words
<0> haha, thats awesome
<0> m4g1k: unrar from rarlabs.com
<2> thanks
<3> back
<3> more questions
<3> can my neighbors sniff my traffic?
<0> yes and no
<3> *not wireless...
<0> cable?
<3> dsl
<0> then no
<3> k
<0> even with cable, its hard, but not impossible
<4> anyone in here have any xp with intel mainstone dvk?
<0> few here run windows
<1> Idle`: if I start a sip client, I can simply be reached as user@ip right?
<0> yessir
<0> port 5060 needs to be open to you, and RTP (udp) ports need to be as well (some client allow you to force those. asterisk can easily)
<1> sip uses...ahh ok, thats what I thought
<1> I'd have to port forward 5060 and?
<0> depends on the client
<0> for my asterisk box (since its acting as a client), I use 17000-> 17999
<1> rtp for outgoing?
<0> 2 way actualy
<0> rtp is what caries the voice packets
<1> rtp doesnt use standard orts?
<0> 5060 carys the signaling, which is used for call setup, teardown, and whatnot
<0> nope, rtp uses epheral ports :)
<0> ephemeral? cant spell
<1> dynamic?
<1> dynamically ***igned
<0> yea
<0> which is the single biggest flaw in sip
<1> I'm looking at kphone config, I dont see anything about rtp ports
<0> makes nat very hard to use
<1> whats STUN?
<0> a type of nat traversal method
<0> I'm not entirely sure how it works
<1> oooo
<1> linphone has a config section for rtp
<0> I use sjphone for testing, and iaxcomm for my softphone, but iaxcomm only works with asterisk
<1> ok, my config shows 7078 as rtp port, so I'd have to port forward that as well as 5060?
<0> yep
<0> thatd be a udp port
<1> ok, gonna set that up
<1> right
<0> :)
<1> 5060 is udp da?
<0> tcp
<0> and udp :S
<0> so both



<1> both just for 5060?
<1> ok....
<1> try ardy@dev.ardynet.com
<0> k
<0> :D
<1> linphone is ipv6 aware
<0> nice
<1> THAT'D be useful if more people used ipv6, I wouldnt need to port forward then
<0> yea, exactly
<0> watching the aviator... wow, howard hughes was a total wackjob
<5> What are some quick and dirty ways to promote your website to get more visitors? Say a web proxy site?
<0> no
<6> xtor: go withdrawal $10,000 in $1's. write your website name on them all then shower a city with them.
<0> haha
<0> awesome
<1> Serenity worth watching?
<1> I have the dvd here
<7> hi all
<0> graz: definately
<1> good, something to do tonight
<0> :D
<1> c0n: canuck $1?
<1> drop them over quebec city?
<7> I'm trying to change ownership on a file, but the system refuses to change the group. When I chgrp to "apache", the system simply sets it to "rpm". I suspect this has to do with the setGUID bit, bit I'm not sure how to change that
<1> chown user.group file
<1> chown user:group file
<7> graz: yes, I go chown apache:apache admin
<1> does that group exist?
<7> then ls -l tells me the group is still "rpm"
<7> yes it does
<7> user apache, group apache both exist
<1> and admin is a FILE?
<7> yes
<7> a cgi executab;e
<1> you're doing this as root?
<7> yes
<7> the setGUID bit is set on the dir containing the file
<7> drwxrwsr-x 2 root rpm 4096 Jun 20 10:48 cgi-bin/
<1> try removing thsat bit first
<7> I did
<7> chmod g-s cgi-bin
<1> 775
<7> yes
<7> chmod 775 does the same thing
<7> brb
<7> drwxrwxr-x 2 root rpm 4096 Jun 20 10:48 cgi-bin/
<7> taht's what it is now
<7> hmmm
<1> thats muh bo-oat
<8> Is there a command I can enter to determine what my processor speed, amount of ram, and harddrive size are?
<1> no
<8> is there a utility I can get to do that?
<1> cat, free, fdisk -l
<9> agpgart won't load for me. according to dmesg it "can't get minor: 175"... anyone know what might cause this?
<7> hi there again
<7> how does my system change a file's group ID to "rpm" automatically when I try to change it to "apache"? Any ideas?
<10> can someone help me understand why if(getuid() == 0 || geteuid() != 0) successfully checks for a root or setuid'd to root user? why isn't it geteuid() == 0 instead?
<7> what happened to setuid() ?
<10> Psycotic: I'm trying to understand the X.org logic error
<11> SICSE i dont understand whats the problem
<7> SICSE: I see
<11> SICSE are you running it as root or it's a setuid executbale that runs as root?
<10> they have a line that says if(getuid() == 0 || geteuid() != 0) { // root privilge stuff }
<7> SICSE: I don't get that line.. looks like it'll always resolve to false
<7> oh, euid
<11> SICSE because in both cases, the user is root.
<11> geteuid() means its running as root
<11> getuid() means root ran it
<11> (***uming it returned 0)
<11> effective user id vs user id
<10> they both return user id
<10> 0 in both cases
<11> like they should.


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