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<gcbirzan> Trey: This one has 35Mbps with 10Mbps
<Idle`> god damnit I hate asp
<gcbirzan> If I could remember its IP :-P
<Trey> gcbirzan: i don't mean for an individual cablemodem i mean for the node that concentrates a neighbourhood
<gcbirzan> Yes.
<gcbirzan> I'm talking about that too.
<Trey> cool
<gcbirzan> 10.30.164.124
<gcbirzan> Er. Ignore that :-P
<Qwell[]> hey, that's my IP!
<gcbirzan> MTU 1764 bytes, BW 42884 Kbit
<Trey> cool
<gcbirzan> Downstream utilization 52%
<gcbirzan> Upstream Avg. utilization 27%
<gcbirzan> :-)
<Qwell[]> 1764 mtu?!
<Idle`> Qwell[]: gigabit allows jumbo's
<Trey> we're not in ethernet anymore toto
<Idle`> reall?
<gcbirzan> Trey: That's with 5 upstreams.
<Trey> nice
<Idle`> creepy
<Idle`> wait, isn't that 1x t3?
<gcbirzan> Trey: This whole thing is incredibly expensive, though.
<Trey> i bet
<Idle`> or no, thats 45mbps...
<gcbirzan> Trey: While, with FTTB, you have some a 4k USD Catalyst for 24*... 100 clients? Plus cheapo switches in the buildings... Fiber and STP/UTP is almost free, compared to HFC's stuff. You don't need cable modems (which are about 100 EUR a piece)
<Trey> gcbirzan: nice
<Trey> gcbirzan: we have a few companies starting to offer that here. Verizon has FIOS but its only in a few small areas
<gcbirzan> Trey: Oh, and, we're using PPPoE for authenticating customers... You can use a 1k USD machine for ~800 connected customers, which is in the whereabouts of 2500 existing customers
<gcbirzan> Trey: The Arris C3s we're using cost... tens of thousands of dollars :-P
<Trey> gcbirzan: a $1k machine for 800 connected customers just for handling pppoe auth?
<gcbirzan> Trey: Ah, for handling the PPPoE tunels
<gcbirzan> s/ne/nne/
<Trey> oh
<Idle`> 'Cannot find table 0.'
<Idle`> what a nice error
<gcbirzan> I'm going to push for doing a nice thing with OSPF and the PPPoE servers before I leave...
<gcbirzan> Well, if I leave, but, still :-)
<Trey> haha that arris c3 supports netbeui
<Idle`> ospf? why not isis?
<Trey> Idle`: ospf is simple to setup and an older standard
<Idle`> eh
<cheez> why isis?
<cheez> why not ospf?
<Trey> cheez: no kidding
<cheez> I mean, there's no real benefit to switching from one to the other that I've ever seen
<Trey> not really. for edge routing bgp seems to scale better
<cheez> well, that's what it's for
<cheez> iBGP baby
<Trey> yep
<cheez> OSPF and ISIS were both designed for a more-or-less flat network
<gcbirzan> Well.
<cheez> they don't do route aggregation too well
<gcbirzan> What I need is very, very simple.
<cheez> a bucket of money?
<Trey> of course all the cool kids move lots of that nonsense down to layer2. eg. VRRP with SMLT's
<cheez> yup
<Qwell[]> bah
<Qwell[]> real men route on layer 1
<cheez> circuit switching ****s.
<gcbirzan> I've a Cisco machine, with a variable number of Linux machines with /32 routes which go up and down... I want the Cisco machine to know on which of the Linux machines the route is...
<cheez> that would be layer 1 routing.
<Qwell[]> or layer 4 routing?
<Trey> "Yes mr. packet let me ring 1.2.3.4 and see if he's in"
<cheez> gcbirzan; what do you mean that the machines have /32 routes
<cheez> you mean each box gets a single IP routed to it?
<cheez> arp should handle that, I'd think.
<cheez> or do you mean that it has an ethernet IP and then gets a /32 routed via the ethernet IP?
<Trey> there's not much to a /32 just the ip itself no network section
<cheez> gcbirzan, if it's #2 you can run RIP
<cheez> I think RIPv2 does VLSM and can support /32 routes
<cheez> otherwise you'll probably want OSPF or BGP
<gcbirzan> cheez: Hm. Proxy arp...
<gcbirzan> cheez: I've PPP tunnels on the Linux machines.
<cheez> ah ok.
<cheez> eh, RIP with two network statements on each of the linux boxes would do it, if RIPv2 will support VLSM and /32s
<cheez> I can't say I've run RIP since v2 came out though
<cheez> I don't think I've run it since 96
<gcbirzan> $boss is worried Cisco is going to **** with 3k /32 routes, heh.
<Qwell[]> $boss is probably right :p
<cheez> yup
<cheez> lots of routes = lots of memory utilization
<cheez> you'll probably have to add memory
<gcbirzan> Hm.
<cheez> and/or allocate more memory to the routing engine
<Vortran> for vsftpd, wondering how to add user that cannot login to a shell - only the FTP server. I am familiar with Windows-based FTP programs where users are setup specific to the program apart from the system.
<gcbirzan> bgp 8708 1018 1864 184448 438064
<Vortran> do I ***ing some sort of null shell like /bin/null or something?
<Qwell[]> Vortran: yes, add something like /bin/false, or /sbin/nologin
<Qwell[]> check /etc/shells for a list
<gcbirzan> Out of 128MiB
<Vortran> thanks, Qwell.. next thing is to get them all to use the same direcftory.
<gcbirzan> Hm.
<gcbirzan> I've to be up in 7 hours...
<Vortran> nuthin comes easy.. too bad I can't remember what it was like going from CP/M to DOS or DOS to Windows.
<gcbirzan> Took a day off and I'm waking up 2-3 hours before I would've if I went to work :-P
<cheez> Vortran, specify their login path in /etc/p***wd to be the ftproot directory, and then configure vsftpd to lock them into the ftproot
<gcbirzan> Night!
<IdiotStic> night gcbirzan
<Vortran> thanks, cheez. I hope I'd have come to that.
<Vortran> Eventually. ;-)
<cheez> I figure you would as well, my main contribution to this channel is pointing out things people already know
<Trey> ha
<Trey> cheez: i've seen you help occationally
<Idle`> rofl
<Idle`> my boss just walked in... we're getting an e10
<battoo> hi all
<battoo> anyone up ?
<Idle`> nope
<battoo> hi idle
<battoo> i am using FC5 ... and i amtrying to use yum to install mysql 4.x
<Trey> Idle`: e10? E10K?
<battoo> but i not seeing anything for mysql 4 in yum..only sseeing mysql 5
<Trey> battoo: it probably doesn't have mysql 4
<battoo> hrm..\
<battoo> where can i get all the rpms for mysql 4 ??? or besides mysql.com ??
<Idle`> Trey: he just called it an e10... from what he said, sounds like an e-line, 10mbps
<Trey> ohhh
<Idle`> :)
<Idle`> battoo: why dont you just use mysql 5?
<battoo> because an application i am working with doesnt support mysql 5 yet
<majikman> is it possible to make akernel ramdisk writable?
<thefoot> sweet my ticket got dismissed
<Idle`> battoo: uh? you sure?
<mortum> Does anyone have a good application for reading SMDR stream (off ATT Netfiniti PBX) ? OpenSMDR is not alive as far as I can tell
<mortum> [ That was ATT Definity ]
<rpc> thefoot did it?
<rpc> how do you know? you were about to go to the court an hour ago :p
<Mjolnir> He thefoot - congrats. That means you don't get like $1000 down a rat hole.
<battoo> yep i am sure
<battoo> it tells me that your version of mysql isnt supported
<battoo> idle ?
<Idle`> fun
<Idle`> dunno
<Idle`> if you cant yum search for mysql4 then your screwed
<battoo> hrm
<majikman> why is it that when i type mount, it displays my mount points as (rw) but if i do echo "test" > bla it gives me an error Read-only file system
<Qwell[]> majikman: ntfs?
<majikman> nope
<majikman> well, this is the ramdisk... is that why?
<majikman> i thought a ramdisk should be writable?
<WhiteWolf> how can I find all files that are greater than X mb?
<SufferAll> find . -size
<SufferAll> man find
<SufferAll> forget if its in bytes or MB
<Idle`> majikman: it should be
<HyperZid> anyone know how many diffrent bluetooth devices an bluetooth sender can send into to at the same time?
<Idle`> cat /proc/mounts
<Idle`> majikman: your mtab may be stale
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