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<0> Figures
<0> oo^ Anyway, did you try grep with the "*"?
<1> anyone know a trafic bnc ?
<0> Idle` Did you get the skit to play?
<0> Must be everyone is watching that skit.
<2> I think if it were me I'd see if 2.6 supports his card and upgrade the whole mess to something written in this century
<0> Yeah.
<0> But he seems to have left.
<0> Thing is, if it's an old box, 2.6 may not be a good idea.
<2> it's an important gateway apparently. how cheap can they afford to be?
<0> I've had issues with 2.6 and archaic hardware.
<0> Yeah.
<0> But if it was up for 2300 days, how new can the hardware be?
<2> exactly
<2> upgrade it all



<0> I would, but depending on the politics of the situation I'd be hesitant to tell management they have to get a new computer if they think I'
<0> I'm the one that busted things in the first place.
<2> heh yeah
<0> Though IMO, having a box that old is simply BEGGING for trouble.
<2> it is indeed
<3> i have an ext usb hard drive w/ ntfs. how do i reformat it to ext2 so i can mount and read/write to it?
<0> I can't help but wonder if the reason it won't boot right is that the image on the disk decayed. I've had crap get through the ECC before on old disks. Rare but possible.
<2> possible, or the dma controller is flakey, etc
<0> Yeah, though if it were that, I'd expect it to blow up after booting off the floppy.
<2> true. could be as simple a corroded ide cable ends
<0> Unless booting from floppy has DMA off and booting from the hd has it on. Something that would also help is to know exactly where in the boot sequence that panic occurs. That'd be a clue as to what module is croaking.
<0> I'm disappointed that grep didn't find it.
<2> I wasn't paying attention, what did he grep?
<0> I had him grep for llinfo in his kernel source
<0> with an exclusion of "callinfo"
<2> ah with a grep -r ?
<0> which has excessive hits. Yes
<0> Scoll back a bit and you'll see what I suggested
<2> yeah I just did
<0> 98% of the time I can find the crap in the sources and figure out what's broke.
<2> and dmesg probably didn't catch anything if it panied early
<0> But the only reference in ANY source to an llinfo I can find is in the ipv6 stack and it doesn't have an allocate ***ociated with it - it's a pointer from another structure
<0> YEah. I need to ask in more detail, but I thought it the panic was on the initial load - before root was ever mounted.
<2> yep
<3> windows has an option to quick format does linux have anything similar?
<0> Basically when the kernel is mallocing the hell out of everything. It really sounds like something ran out of kernel memory or the memory manager blew up.
<0> thefoot - mkfs the floppy
<3> it's a 250GB HD
<3> i dont want to wait 2 hrs before i can use it
<0> Well, same thing.
<2> thefoot: it won't take long
<0> Partition it and do the appropriate make filesystem. It shouldn't take more than a few minutes. My 120gb drive did it in like 3.
<2> the you understand that it will kill any data on that drive right?
<3> yes i know
<3> mkfs -t ext2 /dev/sda1
<0> Yeah, and go get a cup of coffee.
<0> I'm ***uming you fdisked the drive or whatever
<3> yeah i did
<3> Writing inode tables: 45/1871
<0> Sounds like it's working.
<3> 72/1871
<2> depending on the age of the distro, mkfs.ext2 /dev/sda1 does the same thing
<3> IdiotStic: thanks just found that too
<3> now it's at 73/1871 sure it only takes a few minutes? ;)
<0> Ok, sounds like it will take a bit. Is this a USB drive?
<3> yes
<3> hehehe
<0> Oh. Go take a nap.
<2> heh
<3> can i ctrl+c to force quit?
<0> You don't even WANT to know what a slow format would be like.
<0> Yes, but this is the fastest you're gonna get.
<3> that's fine the box is inproduction so i cant bog down the box
<0> Is it bogged down? Check top
<0> Often I/O doesn't lug things that much.
<3> it was earlier
<0> Though with USB it may make an exception.
<0> What about now?
<3> let me check one second
<0> USB has always used too much CPU time, IMO.
<3> yeah it's pegged at 100% i guess ill just do it later



<0> What speed CPU?
<3> thanks guys gotta head to court and fight a traffic ticket
<3> :-p
<0> Good luck, you'll need it.
<3> 3.0Ghz Intel Xeon
<0> And USB maxed THAT?
<0> EGAD!
<3> near max
<0> I can believe it, but I don't have to like it.
<0> What'd you get a ticket for?
<3> $10 fix it ticket that turned into $600
<2> yikes
<3> because i didnt know there was a 1 week processing time for personal checks
<0> I'm to the point I have a data logger on my car after I got a ticket for 3 over the limit.
<3> well im sure the judge will understand. there is no where that clearly states it takes 1 week for processing
<0> Ouch. Well, good luck. I HATE dealing with crap like that.
<3> or in this case they received the check on March 2nd
<3> but it didnt post till Apr 1st
<3> the payment was due March 7th
<2> so it went to a warrant... fun
<4> hey, can anyone help me with a dual boot system?
<3> that's right
<0> Bleah. Well, go plead your case. If you can document what happened there's a chance they'll be reasonable.
<3> i have all the documentation =)
<4> I have slackware on the primary disk and windows xp on the secondary
<0> Ok, good luck then.
<3> copy of the check showing it was dated on Mar 1st
<4> i cant get lilo to load windows, however it loads linux just fine
<3> my fix it ticket was fixed on 2/22
<0> What state?
<3> California
<2> rho: it's much easier the other way around. windows doesn't like being the second OS
<0> Here in VA they don't usually do that. Just have a yearly inspection.
<3> yeah CA is very strict
<0> I much prefer that.
<3> alright ill be back in an hour or maybe 3
<0> It works like 98% of the time and keeps crap off the road.s
<0> rho - which windows? 98, xp?
<4> maybe, but this computer is really slow, i'd rtather not have to reinstall everything
<4> windows xp
<0> Ah, on the secondary disk. And XP.
<0> Welcome to hell.
<4> lol
<0> I'm not saying this is impossible, but you have some work cut out for yourself. It'd be a LOT easier to have XP on the primary and slack on the secondary.
<0> Also, I believe there are some issues with lilo and XP. However I switched to GRUB (unwillingly) before XP came out.
<2> I think I'd swap the drive sequence and redo lilo
<4> really?
<2> and fstab
<4> damn
<4> fstab?
<4> i thought i just had to fix lilo.conf
<2> filesystem table
<2> /etc/fstab
<0> . /etc/fstab. You'll have to change hda to hdb , or some such (hda if you're using plain IDE drives)
<0> Additionally, are you going to be accessing the windows side from Linux or vice versa?
<0> Because in general, I prefer to have each hard disk on its own IDE cable. Which changes things yet again.
<4> well, ive got a dvdrom and a cdrw on the other cable
<4> its an old box anyway, thre isnt that much bandwidth to free up
<0> Ok, to put it another way, are you going to have both drives in use at the same time?
<4> no
<0> Ok, then no problem.
<4> lol, yeah i guess that would make sense
<0> ESPECIALLY on old boxes, if you have both drives going, you want them to be able to run independantly.
<0> The newer UDMA and SATA don't bottleneck so easily, but in the old days you could cut your drive performance in half, or worse.
<4> ok, well im gonna go switch some jumpers
<4> thanks
<5> Name on a good burner that is free and can burn iso images?
<0> software? Everyone I know uses cdrecord.
<0> Or do you need dvd capability?
<2> k3b, xcdroast, cdrecord, etc
<0> Yeah, though k3b and xcdroast are frontends for cdrecord. I mainly wanted to know if he needed dvd+rw-tools or some such.
<6> is a PBX really a PBX if it doesn't asterks or equivilent on it?
<0> Yes. There ARE still non-IP PBXs around.


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