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<0> bloofar: :P
<0> bloofar: wheres my case?
<1> The only things I stripped were debug symbols...
<2> Idle247: didn't we go over this a few times today?
<0> CarZ: re-add them? :P
<0> bloofar: yes, you forgot my address
<2> yup
<2> still got it
<0> I'm gonna keep pestering you till I get a tracking number
<2> 2348071 37834
<1> Idle247: How?
<0> you made that up
<0> CarZ: dunno
<1> Idle247: Prelink's a bitch... it also cares about ELF header timestamps.
<0> never used strip :(
<0> prelink can unprelink itself...
<1> It won't.
<1> :(
<0> oh
<0> I bet I know what you did
<1> And that's the reason. :/
<3> you stripped for korozion
<0> the lib probably had debug symbols
<0> and when it prelinks, it put those debug symbols in
<0> when you stripped debug symbols, it pulled those out too
<1> And changed ELF header timestamps.
<1> Prelink knows it's been ****ed with, and won't undo.
<0> so unprelink it checking the libs it needed, and trying to remove them (including the debug symbols),
<0> and cant match them up
<0> I would take all the libs it needed, make a copy on a lan
<0> er
<0> dir
<1> All the lis all of my bins need?
<0> then strip those debug symbols, and un-prelink that
<1> s/lis/libs
<0> yea, the specific ones you fscked with
<1> My binaries aren't ****ed though, are they?
<0> no, just prelink
<1> 'Kay... that's a lot of bins. ;P
<0> ouch
<0> well, if it aint broke
<4> awww
<1> Maybe I'll try this out with one binary...
<0> otherwise, your gonna have fun rebuilding your systems bins
<1> I think it's just that I can't unprelink/reprelink anymore.
<0> copy the system to a chroot, and do it at that
<1> Idle247: How about I try your method with just one binary that's been ****ed, to start with?
<0> yeppers
<1> Idle247: Basically, just grab the libs it needs (with that command that I forgot)...
<1> Idle247: Make backups of them, then strip just those libs... and try to unprelink the binary.
<0> ldd
<0> yea
<1> Ah, right.
<0> note: I have no idea what I am doing, but it may be worth a shot :P
<1> Well... it's better than what everyone else here provided me with: absolutely nothing. ;P
<0> lol
<1> I don't want to have fun rebuilding this system "from scratch" for the next three days... again.
<3> but you got nothing for free!
<1> graz: And I got a whole lot for free, too. Better than that nothing.
<1> Idle247: 'ldd' on many binaries outputs: "linux-gate.so.1 => (0xfffe000)"... which is nowhere to be found, on my system.
<0> yea, cause you prelinked it ;)
<1> Don't have to worry about it, then?
<0> 1 sec
<0> what bin?
<1> Tried grub and iwconfig so far, both said they use it.
<1> Or, ldd said they use it.
<1> Same for arpd and dhcpd
<1> I believe just about every bin.
<0> yea, I dont have it either
<1> Guess I don't need to worry about it.
<0> yea, mine too
<1> ****... I hate it when **** like this happens. Grr.
<5> Why doesn't the GPL prevent Redhat from charging for their distro?
<6> Because it doesn't
<6> in fact, it's explicitly allowed
<5> They ARE charging for the actual software?
<6> try reading it some time
<6> absolutely
<5> I did try.
<7> answer: you don't know what GPL is.
<5> "You must cause any work
<5> that you distribute or publish, that in whole or in part
<5> contains or is derived from the Program or any part thereof,
<5> _to be licensed as a whole at no charge_ to all third
<5> parties under the terms of this License"
<8> don't
<5> My bad.. new lines were in copy/paste
<6> "How come you don't look like Ceasar Chavez?" "Because joo don't know wha Ceasar looks liche"
<3> I thought it was Cesare
<6> fie: any anybody *CAN* download their modified GPL sources
<6> graz: whatever
<6> s/any/and/
<0> fie: short answer, you can sell it, so long as you include the source, and credit those who participated
<6> You don't even have to "include" the source
<6> You just have to make it available
<8> it has to be available
<7> as long as you make the source available
<5> So just because they don't release an ISO to the public it still counts because they have the code available?
<5> Huh
<0> yea :P
<9> Cesar
<5> Seems kinda loopholey
<0> not at all
<0> in redhats case, IIRC, one of the disks has the sources on it
<7> it's to the letter of the GPL really.
<6> the letter and the spirit
<8> all ya have to do is download it
<7> sure.
<5> What happens if an author releases something as GPL then wants to change it?
<6> IdiotStic: which in and of itself doesn't comply properly.. but, they do send you the sources if requested, *IF* you buy the distro
<7> BUT BSD IS LIKE WAY BETTER MAAAAAAAAAN
<9>
<0> fie: what stops them from changing it?
<6> (which, again, fully complies with the GPL)
<5> It's amazing that there aren't like 80 distros of BSD.
<3> hardly anybody wants ONE
<6> fie: it doesn't make sense with BSD
<3> let alone 80
<8> bsd doesn't use gpl do they?
<3> nooooooooo
<5> Qwell, Oh? Last time I used fbsd it wasn't exactly user friendly.
<9> no, they use bsd
<8> right
<7> they use gpl'd software though
<5> BSD is still open source right?
<9> yes
<6> well, technically...
<6> BSD isn't compatible with GPL
<5> Freely available or do you have to jump through hoops?
<6> compatable? whichever
<7> with gpl is you modify it you have to share your changes back, with BSD you don't have to. (simplification)
<0> you dont need to jump through holes
<7> BSD is "more free"
<7> but better? matter of opinion.
<6> Does DFSG count BSD as "Open Source"?
<7> (license)
<0> gauze: I dunno about more free...
<8> then nthere's the lgpl
<6> LGPL <3
<6> BSD <3 too
<0> whats the difference in the lgpl
<7> Idle247: more free in the sense of less restricted
<6> means we can use it in asterisk without a disclaimer - makes things easier
<9> Idle247: It's more free. You're more free to do what you want with it.
<0> gauze: I think that the restrictions are important
<6> Even Windows could technically use LGPL
<6> Windows uses/used BSD
<0> disclaimer how?
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