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<0> sure!
<0> what do you do about bouncing mail in the mean time?
<1> Joe630: nthing
<0> yeah
<2> get an external host
<0> you are a ****ty sysadmin.
<1> put up a website message
<2> and change ur mx record temporarly
<0> DING DING
<0> MDASILVA
<0> YOU WIN
<0> thats what you do.
<0> you get an external host for you mail relay
<2> another host is always a good safty net
<1> we have 2 isps' here, they both work great
<1> hell, one is even a home ISP
<0> but when it happens to idle, he wouldnt be prepared
<0> "it can't happen"
<1> it will NOT happen to us
<0> way to prepare yourself
<3> hey
<2> u should always have a backup system on ANOTHER network for important external systems
<0> hah
<1> Joe630: see, 2 completely distinct connections, it wont happen
<3> what's a good program to sync a site between two load balanced servers?
<0> " Idle`> it will NOT happen to us
<1> mdasilva: exactly
<0> HAhAHA
<3> as in... an ftp or versionioning system that will upload to both
<1> mdasilva: whch is what we have :D
<2> *omg what do i win?!*
<2> yep
<4> atomic_: rsync?
<1> joe doesn't unerstand that
<2> thats why i dont support the idea of blacklists
<2> or im very cautious to
<1> yea
<0> blacklists are HORRRRIBLE
<2> a strong fast system and good policies should befine
<1> mdasilva: exactly :)
<2> set a big tarpitting value and they'll stop
<0> hahahahaaha
<1> I like spam databases, but blacklists are retarded
<0> idle, you just said it can't happen - but you didn't say anything about dual ISPs and backup MX
<5> I just got an email from comcast saying I have violated the dmca by distributing X-men through bittorrent
<0> methinks you are a liar, sir
<2> lol
<1> Joe630: it cant happen to us
<0> why
<0> xtor call a lawyer
<2> anything can happen on the internet
<1> dual ISP's
<0> oh yeah?
<0> so which ISP delivers your email?
<1> yea, and our own range
<1> both
<0> you own it?
<0> on the ARIN record?
<1> its called load balancing
<1> yep
<0> how big is this block?
<0> load balancing outgoing maill
<0> huh
<1> its why we pay a metric ****load for an entire cl*** C
<0> nice
<0> how do you do that?
<0> A METRIC ****LOAD?1
<1> we've had it for 10 years
<0> if you OWN it, you don't have to pay ANYTHING for it.
<5> as opposed to an imperial ****load
<0> you are lying.
<1> xtor: exactly :)
<1> Joe630: no, I'm not
<0> yes
<0> you are.
<0> if your name is on the ARIN record
<1> the cost is for the T1's and routing from our ISp's
<5> webhots just charge a dollar an IP
<0> and you OWN thos eaddresses
<0> (which I doubt, for a cl*** C), you don't pay your ISP for them
<5> so a metric ****load should be $256 even if you lease the C
<0> oh
<0> so you pay for the routin
<1> I've gotta figure out the reverse one of these days
<0> man
<0> you are making stuff up now
<0> DIAF
<1> Joe630: I am not
<0> yes you are.
<1> no, I'm not
<0> "gotta figure out the revers" why? arin points them right to whereever you want
<0> dope
<1> Joe630: it wasn't setup before I got here
<0> sure
<1> the rev dns servers are into oblivion right now
<0> im going to go eat lunch
<1> you go do that
<0> when i come back maybe you;l realize how dumb you sound
<1> oh, and pick another ****ty ISP while your at it
<0> haha
<6> bye
<7> Joe630: last warning. cut out the insults/attacks
<0> Sure.
<0> idle is a liar.
<0> thats just a fact.
<0> don't take his advice, he's a newb
<2> imo
<2> its unlikly to happen but not impossible
<2> just dont be lazy
<1> mdasilva: yea, exactly
<2> dont use blacklists unless your getting boned
<1> ensure you arn't an open relay, and youll be fine
<2> its a temporary thing to weather a storm.. thats all imo
<0> thats just baltnetly incorrect
<1> yep
<0> blatenetly
<0> whatevery
<0> you are wrong
<0> and I don't want other people to take that advice
<0> because it'll hurt them
<1> Joe630: how come this doesn't happen daily then?
<1> hmm?
<0> blacklists are about far far more than being an open relay
<0> it does
<1> yea, theyre about sending spam from your machine
<0> 12:47 < Joe630> how do you do that?
<1> dont send spam, and your fine
<0> : host smtp.secureserver.net[64.202.166.12] said: 553
<0> Bogus helo randymail-mx1.dreamhost.com.
<0> <http://unblock.secureserver.net/?ip=208.97.132.118>; (in reply to RCPT TO
<0> command)
<0> comReporting-MTA: dns; spunkymail-a7.dreamhost.com
<0> X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 999075BD44
<0> X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; myemail@myemail
<0> Arrival-Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 19:11:10 -0700 (PDT)
<0> see that?
<0> thats what i got asked this morning
<1> dreamhost... haha, we;ve had issues with them
<0> it happens every day
<0> why?
<0> because : host smtp.secureserver.net[64.202.166.12] said: 553
<0> Bogus helo randymail-mx1.dreamhost.com.
<0> <http://unblock.secureserver.net/?ip=208.97.132.118>; (in reply to RCPT TO
<0> command)
<0> comReporting-MTA: dns; spunkymail-a7.dreamhost.com
<0> X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 999075BD44
<1> they block everything
<0> X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; myemail@myemail
<1> STOP FUCING PASTING
<0> 208.97.132.118
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