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<Idle`> Mjolnir: sounds like your using mysql
<Lann2> warjes: just inbound, and that is the spelling of it in the spam im getting every 30 mins
<Lann2> warjest: im getting the spam to my root account
<warjest> why not just install spam ***asin? if not there is a way to compile custom sendmail filters
<Lann2> well i have spambouncer which i guess came with sendmail on this box
<Phaid> whee irc'ing from the train again
<pb24ss> Lann2: use milter-regex for that
<Phaid> ic
<Phaid> weird there's this one bridge over the hudson where the connection always goes to crap
<Phaid> I wonder if they are jamming cell phones there
<Qwell[]> bridge == steel == super antenna
<Qwell[]> it boosts the signal so high, that it goes right through the towers
<Qwell[]> </bull****>
<Idle`> ah, cl***ic Qwell[] moment
<Phaid> haha
<Phaid> god how depressing, a guy in one of the forums I'm on posted a pic he took with Rik Mayall
<Phaid> it's true what the song said
<Phaid> we may not be the young ones very long
<wescotte> I'm having some problems with X sessions. I startx (KDE) and if I exit out and attempt to get back in my screen goes black and it never fires up. I have to reboot. Any ideas?
<Phaid> sounds like a video driver problem
<Phaid> what kind of card you have?
<wescotte> ATI Radeon 9200
<wescotte> Using the offical ATI drivres... I did upgrade it awhile back (the drivers) but had some problems so I went back to the olrder version I was using but I don't recall this happening until recently
<wescotte> then again I don't recall if I ever exited X and rentered w/o a reboot..
<Phaid> figures
<Phaid> you might want to try switchng to the "fglrx" driver from ati
<Phaid> but ati hardware in general is a pain
<FluKex> thats cause they're canadian
<FluKex> there
<FluKex> i said it
<FluKex> deal with it
<Phaid> with their beady eyes and flapping heads
<wescotte> hmm fglrx?
<wescotte> that the open source ATI drivers?
<Phaid> no fglrx is ati's drivers
<wescotte> that's what I'm using
<wescotte> the offical driver from ATI
<wescotte> Is there any startup logs I can check to see where it's failing?
<Idle`> wescotte: if fglrx doesn't ring a bell, then you probably arn't running the official driver
<Phaid> I agree
<Idle`> wescotte: it prints some to the screen, but theyre mainly in /var/log/Xorg.0.log IIRC
<Mjolnir> Running ATI hardware is its own reward.
<Phaid> but when people make ***ertions like that I give up rather quickly
<wescotte> fglrxinfo display: :0.0 screen: 0 OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc. OpenGL renderer string: RADEON 9200 DDR Generic OpenGL version string: 1.3.1060 (X4.3.0-8.24.8)
<wescotte> I'm running fglrx I just got it mixed up wiht the open source ATI drivers (which I haven't tried to run)
<Idle`> then you did set fglrx in your xorg.conf, and it shows up in lsmod
<Thorbar> i'm trying to set up xserver on a new debian install for the first time and its able to detect a driver for my card its a radeon x1300 which driver should I select?
<wescotte> yes it shows up in lsmod and the installer modified my xorg.conf yes
<wescotte> the ATI driver installer is pretty much run -> click next -> click finish -> done.. so I dunno what I could hvae done wrong
<wescotte> however I do know the latest version has an issue and anything using openGL won't run so I revereted to an older version
<Thorbar> does anyone know where I can find the correct video card driver for my xserver on debian?
<Thorbar> I'm running an ati x1300
<wescotte> Thorbar: ati.com
<Thorbar> I'm trying to set up the xserver for the first time on debian and I'm in the config program
<Thorbar> ah **** just noticed ati on the options
<Thorbar> nevermind
<wescotte> ah I figured you'd hvae to use a generic driver..
<wescotte> 1st..
<Thorbar> seems to have worked
<wescotte> I don't think you'll get any 3D accelration with that driver though
<Thorbar> should i install the official drivers from ati afterwards to get 3d acceleration?
<wescotte> Well you may have it running now.. Do an lsmod and see if fglrx is listed
<emu> im trying to have grub run in failsafe mode so that if my new kernel doesnt work i can remotely reboot it in to the old, the grub manual points to using a program called grub-set-default, i get command not found.. is there another way of doing this?
<_sauce> any good forums for posting linux security problems ?
<Phaid> bugtraq
<Thorbar> my x server is failing to start with the fatal server error : no screens found
<Thorbar> anyone know of a good how to for configuring the x server for debian?
<emu> i used to use Xorg --configure i think but not positive havent done it inawhile
<Trey> -config
<harvyb> this is from slapt-get - Error: there is no installed package named slapt-get-0.9.11b-i386-1 (looking for /var/log/packages/slapt-get-0.9.11b-i386-1); any suggestions? i'm trying to install version 0.911b but its saying it cant find that version installed. weird
<harvyb> message before that is - Preparing to replace slapt-get-0.9.10e with slapt-get-0.9.11b-i386-1
<harvyb> Any suggestions/ideas please?
<Trey> does /var/log/packages/slapt-get-0.9.11b-i386-i exist?
<harvyb> i just ran it with --no-upgrade. seemed to work for now
<harvyb> then it needed to be updated again still and the new upgrade worked properly
<Lann2> why is there an /etc, and a /root/etc?
<incomming> whats the best distro for playin games on like cs or hl2
<Idle`> if your still playing those, you need to buy new games
<incomming> well im just wondering
<DrMitch> incomming, doesn't matter
<incomming> im so sick of media center...
<DrMitch> just need cedega
<incomming> allright what distro works best on a vaio
<incomming> i tried cedega on fedora didnt run right
<DrMitch> incomming, if you're looking for ease of use, i recommend suse or ubuntu
<ekim> Is there a way to make ebuntu not automatically go into x?
<incomming> what is it called when you have a single main server
<incomming> and run all the other computers off it
<incomming> pretty much i need a windows domain but off linux servers
<incomming> with linux clients
<Roflcopte> Is there a way to set a linux system to, say, shut down / hibernate from, say, 10 PM until 7 AM ?
<Trey> kaosjeste: yes you can script a shut down, but not necessarily a wake up
<kaosjeste> The wake up is essential :(
<Trey> kaosjeste: if your system has wake on lan that might work
<Trey> kaosjeste: trying to save power?
<kaosjeste> No, a friend asked me the question. He was really vague about it.
<kaosjeste> Could I just set a pair of cron tabs to set it to init 1 and then back up to init 5 in the morning?
<kaosjeste> That may do the trick.
<Trey> kaosjeste: then my answer is "Maybe but it depends"
<Trey> kaosjeste: how would cron run if the machine is off?
<kaosjeste> Exactly.
<kaosjeste> That's why I asked about something like init 1.
<Trey> it won't you have to look to hardware to wake it back up
<kaosjeste> Because then it's on, but single-user, no networking, etc.
<kaosjeste> Well, thank you for at least attempting to help. I may be back in a few hours with more elaborate information :)
<Trey> kaosjeste: software will not be able to control when it wakes up
<Trey> kaosjeste: np
<Trey> you could build a simple pic project with a timer to try and wake it up
<kaosjeste> Yeah, but that sounds like too much work.
<kaosjeste> The person who asked me probably has a dumb reason for wanting to anyway. He's not the most tech-savvy person I've ever met.
<ekim> man, I can't decide what to use out of ubuntu or fedora
<jeenam> slackware
<ekim> I knew I should have stuck with FreeBSD.
<ekim> but I agree, slackware is nice
<Vilde> god no
<ekim> ?
<emu> yah i wish i had an apt-get install freebsd
<Vilde> if you want a challenge, go for gentoo
<IdiotStic> if you want freebsd install freebsd
<Vilde> but seriously, try out both ubuntu and fedora and se what you prefer.. I've tried both, and they have their pro's and con's
<ekim> Well, I'm running ubuntu right now.
<ekim> I wonder what the pros are
<ekim> I know one of the cons
<Vilde> hahaha
<ekim> The defaults.
<Vilde> I liked ubuntu apart from the sudo-thingy
<ekim> kdm or gdm or whatever it is...is enabled by default
<ekim> yeah..I don't care for sudo
<Vilde> but yeah, it's nice if you like things to work without giving a lot of effort
<ekim> but my brother told me about yum
<ekim> in fedora
<ekim> and now I'm wanting it
<Vilde> I never used yum in my fedora/rh days
<IdiotStic> yum is nice but it has nothing over apt
<Vilde> I found apt to be easier
<ekim> ah
<Trey> ekim: why don't you care for sudo?
<IdiotStic> and you can byp*** the whole sudo thing by adding a root p***word
<ekim> I prefer just logging into root
<Trey> ekim: ah haven't shot yourself in the foot enough times yet
<ekim> that's the 2 things that pissed me off
<Trey> ekim: time will fix that. Or having multiple people admin a machine.
<Idle`> or a little understanding may fix it too
<Trey> ekim: i use sudo because it logs everything someone runs through it
<ekim> xdm or gdm or whatever it was was enabled by default...and no root p***word by default
<IdiotStic> yeah if you install a desktop system you get boot to X
<jeenam> anyone here running a 3com 3c905b ethernet card with a 2.6 kernel?
<Trey> !wtf ask?
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