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<0> farkr: just dont install grub to /mbr is all
<1> you mean do install it to mbr
<0> put it at beginning of the linux file system
<1> i dont use ntldr or whatever it is as my bootloader
<0> farkr: if ya put grub into /mbr you render the win2k unbootable
<0> i've never used win2k... and hate|avoid wincrap
<1> i did last time and win2k was still bootable.. it just ends up last on the list (as long as you install win2k first)
<0> ok... just be careful
<1> i like it that way because i want linux to be the default boot system
<0> imho get that **** off the hd is best
<1> wish i could avoid wincrap
<1> soon i think
<1> once i get a mac mini. then ill have a pc just for linux and a mac. no windows necessary forever :D
<0> farkr: i actually have winXP on this box and it defaults to linux just fine using ntldr in /mbr
<2> why do you need windows at all?



<0> i just never boot to XP is all
<0> someone gave me a couple of games.... for when i'm really bored
<1> i dont absolutely need windows. it's more of a convenience for games/ work and some hardware devices i have
<1> im still playin with vmware to see if i can do everythin i need in windows from it so i dont have to install it
<1> and playin with digikam and stuff to make sure they work
<1> im only giving windows a very small partition and im not upgrading to vista ever. and from now on only buying linux compatible hardware and ogg compatible music players, and so on
<0> well careful of M$ fud tactics too
<1> fud?
<1> fear, uncertaindy, doubt?
<1> s/dy/ty
<0> i've heard new mp3 players built with new M$ MTP file formats that ONLY wincrap can read claiming to apply new "standards"
<0> what M$ is nothing short of criminal imho
<0> erm
<0> what M$ do is nothing short of criminal imho
<1> the DRM stuff is just too icky
<1> i dont wanna be charged to be restricted/spy'd on
<2> awol, fixed my problem
<2> I had to remove all my old setups lol
<3> how do u change themes on kde im using mandriva 2007
<2> as in?
<2> your themes menu?
<0> in kontrol panel
<4> Hay Idiotstic.
<2> !wtf idiotstic?
<2> !wtf idiotstic
<4> french fries of course!
<5> it's not a public bot :)
<0> !whois FenixNR
<0> !adduser FenixNR
<3> i dont got a themes menu
<3> in apperance and themes there is no theme manager
<2> w00t I got added!
<5> try now
<0> Deathhave you got a kde control panel gui?
<0> too many deaths in here...
<2> !wtf IdiotStic
<3> say fox
<3> :p
<0> DeathFox: have you got a kde control panel gui?
<5> add a ? or a !
<2> !wtf IdiotStic?
<0> !tell FenixNR wtf
<3> yes i do
<6> I heard that IdiotStic is an idiot we use to whack sticks.
<2> he worked, he's just being slow
<0> DeathFox: then look around in that....
<3> ok
<3> that worked
<3> maybe you can ***ist me in finding out how to cut millitary time off my clock
<3> i cant find the setting
<0> !wtf time?
<2> google.com is your friend I promise
<6> I guess time is setting your computer's clocks and system time is explained at http://www.linuxsa.org.au/tips/time.html
<0> DeathFox: that url is for redhat based systems tho.... adjust to suit your distro
<5> DeathFox: the clock in the taskbar?
<7> blargh
<3> ya
<3> the one in taskbar
<3> iv read and read and looked at the configs i still cant sort it
<0> did ya right click on it?
<5> Death_Syn: put your cursor over it and right click. then select date and time format



<5> then select the time format with AMPM at the end
<0> IdiotStic: wrongful death... ya could get sued
<5> damn...
<0> ;-P
<5> well, at least it was syn
<3> i did
<3> and it dident change
<5> you'll need to log out and back in
<3> k brb
<8> what'd I do?
<5> heh
<8> oh
<8> somebody couldn't set their clock
<8> lame
<9> [graz] unF
<2> hey, where is awol
<0> working...
<2> lol loser
<2> jk
<0> not for money
<2> ouch even worse
<0> on open source... for the love of it
<2> oh ok thats fine then
<0> creating a madwificonf gui...
<2> finally?
<0> still in fact...
<0> started just before xmas... before i got sick
<2> that sux
<2> you making it in glade?
<0> the flu sux
<0> no. it's a command line gui in dialog
<2> yes it does, thats why I don't get sick
<0> so it can be run by any package installer
<2> got ya
<10> how do i know if someone is using an xorg session if im not at console?
<10> username :0 - 17:32 ?xdm? 14.28s 0.02s /bin/sh /usr/bi
<2> xdm is not xorg
<10> idle is ?xdm? so how do i know
<10> xdm runs xorg
<10> how do i tell with xdm then
<2> . /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -br -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tc
<0> xdm == generix X display manager
<2> something like that
<2> or
<0> gdm == gnome display manager
<2> fvwm or gnome as a process or whatever one they use
<0> ya wont see gnome as a process
<0> because it doesn't freaking exist!
<2> I'm pretty sure mine said it
<0> gnome is a desktop environment
<10> ok
<0> which means its a group of packages... not a program
<10> are you guys trying to help? i cant tell
<2> Zippy2 trying to help since he's showing I was wrong
<10> i use console
<0> i'm trying to edumacate FenixNR
<10> and in console is says IDLE 1:42 or some ****
<10> what about xorg?
<2> lol
<10> ok this is why
<10> <10> my boss is logged in and he keeps leaving his session open unlocked
<10> <10> i want to know if he's inactive so i can kill it for him
<0> Zippy2: easier to just invoke xlock on him... when he's idle it'll lock the screen and ask for a p***wd
<0> ya can adjust idle times to suit
<10> where do i adjust
<0> or ya can get an idle timeout logout app for him
<10> wheres the best place to set idle logout
<0> there's various available... like idled (idle-daemon)... search freshmeat....
<10> i mean builtin
<0> xlock is standard on most installs of xscreensaver
<0> i think ya can even adjust it to auto-logout too.. but i could be wrong...
<0> rtfm is best...
<0> look in /usr/share/doc/ tree


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