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<stnkypnky> the installing and using new software thing is killing me
<stnkypnky> I finally got xchat to work
<Idle`> yum install xchat
<Idle`> how hard is that?
<Idle`> its easier then windows, which is nice
<WhiteWolf> stnkypnky: use your systems package manager
<stnkypnky> I do but it only seems to let me use prepackaged stuff
<stnkypnky> from mandriva
<stnkypnky> like for instance i did the install of flash
<WhiteWolf> right... but there's more repos out there than just mandriva
<stnkypnky> it said the install was complete and successful or something like that
<WhiteWolf> rpmfind.net can help you find packages, and you may need to edit /etc/yum.conf
<IdiotStic> urpmi for mandriva
<WhiteWolf> see, shows you how much i know
<stnkypnky> but i can't get the plugin to work in my firefox
<stnkypnky> which btw i been using firefox for a year now or longer
<WhiteWolf> i use slackware, fedora and friends, centos, debian, and ubuntu
<WhiteWolf> stnkypnky: that's always a good choice
<WhiteWolf> recently though, i've been falling less and less in love with slackware
<stnkypnky> are they slacking off???
<stnkypnky> hehe
<WhiteWolf> it's just not the distro for me anymore
<WhiteWolf> /usr/ports and apt-get have spoiled me!
<korozion> heard of slapt-get?
<WhiteWolf> i have
<WhiteWolf> use it on all my remaining slackware installs
<stnkypnky> some people talk about the dumbest stuff
<stnkypnky> not yall
<stnkypnky> guy is in my chat window typing words to songs
<joey00> centos any good to start out with ?
<stnkypnky> thinking i am impressed
<inv_arp[w> joey00: centos is geared toward business use.. like RHEL
<WhiteWolf> joey00: it's RHEL without any of the commercial licence software
<WhiteWolf> (in a nutshell)
<awol> joey00: start with ubuntu
<WhiteWolf> joey00: i agree, ubuntu will probably be best
<stnkypnky> the ubuntu live cd wouldn't work on my box
<stnkypnky> could the ubuntu full blown work instead?
<WhiteWolf> the ubuntu live cd is the install cd.
<WhiteWolf> which is what the system will look like after the install
<awol> WhiteWolf: actually no. they're different
<stnkypnky> right then, it gave me a bunch of crap because my video card wouldn't work
<WhiteWolf> awol: huummm?
<awol> stnkypnky: quite possibly it could
<IdiotStic> use the netinstall cd
<joey00> what kernel do u get with debian
<WhiteWolf> IdiotStic: oh god, don't do that
<IdiotStic> 2.6.165
<IdiotStic> oops
<WhiteWolf> IdiotStic: from Qwell's experience it's horrible
<awol> WhiteWolf: go get ubuntu to send you a boxed set of cd's and find out yourself
<Qwell> ugh...yeah
<stnkypnky> I have never done a netinstall
<stnkypnky> successfully
<Qwell> ubuntu netboot is junk
<WhiteWolf> awol: nah, no need... the install cd's environment was nice
<IdiotStic> with debian you get 2.6.8 if you choose the 2.6 kernel install I think
<WhiteWolf> awol: but i really do perfer installing from the "server" install and picking what packages i want from there
<stnkypnky> why do they do this for free??
<awol> i always compile my own kernel immediately after install... dont forget the dev tools
<WhiteWolf> stnkypnky: if they sold it, they'd have to release the source anyway
<stnkypnky> true
<stnkypnky> how do they stay in business?
<WhiteWolf> donations and sponsors
<stnkypnky> ahh
<joey00> awol what do u use ?
<joey00> Debian Installer With Kernel 2.6.11
<awol> joey00: debian mostly... but i've tried most mainstream distro's
<WhiteWolf> joey00: remember, ubuntu is debian with no packages older than 6 months (in a nutshell... don't hurt me people)... i really recommend it for first time users
<joey00> i have used redhat 6 before
<joey00> on a 66mhz box
<WhiteWolf> that must've been exciting...
<joey00> i;m not new new to linux
<IdiotStic> you are if it's been that long heh
<WhiteWolf> yeah
<joey00> i got a openbsd box
<WhiteWolf> redhat 6... kernel 2.2 maybe even earlier?
<joey00> openbsd box router :P
<stnkypnky> what kernel do i have?
<stnkypnky> i run the latest mandriva deal??
<IdiotStic> stnkypnky: uname -r
<WhiteWolf> stnkypnky: don't know... run uname -r
<joey00> linksys router is put in a box it ****ed and rebooted 20 times aday heh
<joey00> -bash-3.1$ uname -r
<joey00> 3.9
<WhiteWolf> joey00: wrt54g's with custom firmware are much more stable than with the default
<WhiteWolf> +firmware
<joey00> OpenBSD nsevil.ath.cx 3.9 NSEVIL#0 i386 AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor ("AuthenticAMD" 586-cl***)
<TRTint> whats the biggest reason to use Windows in stead of linux
<korozion> especially since there's a recent exploit
<WhiteWolf> TRTint: games run best on the platform they were made for.
<awol> i run an old P166 as my gateway box with 2 wifi cards and a wired nic..... never needs a reboot
<korozion> TRTint you want things to crash on a daily basis, like spam, like spyware, and like virii
<korozion> etc
<joey00> awol what so and how much ram u got ?
<joey00> os*
<WhiteWolf> korozion: with a little common sense you need not suffer from any of that... -_-
<awol> joey00: i actually doubled it but didn't need to 64M
<korozion> right.
<awol> joey00: it runs debian sarge tho
<TRTint> some things i dont like of linux, it dont have Maxthon Webbrowser (the best browser in the universe)
<stnkypnky> old computers as tools for new computers
<stnkypnky> awesome
<korozion> "here's a new car, but if you actually want it to run properly, you'll need to buy these six other things"
<cmang> isn't maxthon a front-end to IE? :/
<IdiotStic> windows has detected movement of the mouse device. the system must now reboot.
<korozion> :)
<WhiteWolf> korozion: you don't have to buy crap
<TRTint> I cant use optimal my Sound Blaster Audigy ZS2 Platinum Pro, Microsoft Keyboard, MX 510 Mouse
<WhiteWolf> firefox + avg + whatever free firewall and you're set
<joey00> what would be a good laptop to buy that would run linux nicly
<WhiteWolf> TRTint: you can use all of that
<korozion> "here's a new car, but if you actually want it to run properly, you'll need to get these six other things"
<WhiteWolf> joey00: while doing what
<WhiteWolf> korozion: better, but you still have to install things on linux too
<korozion> indeed
<TRTint> maxthon too ?
<WhiteWolf> TRTint: wine would probably run it
<TRTint> i tried and i googled, it doenst work and there is no solution yet
<awol> man if general motors had a tech support line like isp's do....... I wanted my car to go faster but it crashed.... what do i do?
<korozion> :D
<korozion> it's funny too, my last three installs had everything I needed ...
<IdiotStic> "my new car won't recognize my wife, can I get that option for myself?"
<korozion> ROFL
<awol> TRTint: have ya booted that machine with a knoppix cd at all?
<TRTint> no why? im using fc5
<awol> joey00: dont do that... or some bastard op from hell will ban yer ***! ok?
<awol> TRTint: worth a shot if ya want all that crap to work
<awol> joey00: and since i'm an fvwm-themes dev i dont care what distro i use as i always use fvwm-themes even with gnome or kde but i hate both
<awol> i prefer fvwm-themes by itself... runs 50 times faster than with either gnome or kde
<joey00> awol what speed box
<awol> well which one?
<awol> i run it on this old P266 laptop.... and my athlon XP2400 and my athlon xp2000.......
<awol> it'll run on an old P166 tho
<awol> heck it'll run on a 386 too!
<awol> just not that fast is all
<TRTint> i accidentally gave a partition 40 GB, can i delete this partition ? /dev/hda3 5113 10011 39351217+ 8e Linux LVM
<WhiteWolf> sure
<WhiteWolf> you could just reformat it with another fs
<cmang> you can delete it. if you believe you can delete it.
<awol> WhiteWolf: he'd need to change partition types first
<WhiteWolf> awol: sure
<TRTint> i dont know what LVM means
<Idle`> awol: not on linux :D
<Idle`> TRTint: LVM is Linux Volume Management
<WhiteWolf> TRTint: linux volume manager
<WhiteWolf> what he said
<Idle`> for dynamic volumes
<TRTint> im afraid to format the wrong partition, one is linux and the other must be empty, i gave /home 40 GB
<WhiteWolf> can always view what's what with "mount"
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