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<0> well, we found some inline adaptors in the most unlikely place
<1> Idle`: i doubt they'll fit
<0> we had some trays lying around, and we noticed they had the_exact_ adaptor we needed
<0> they do :D
<1> oh well great
<0> so we scavenged the trays :D
<0> now we have some SCA trays to 68 pin... :P
<1> hehe
<1> those adapters aren't cheap
<1> last time i bought one i paid $45
<0> 120 or sometihng for the trays
<2> Hey Freinds, whats the name to the v4l modulal ?
<0> yea, theyre expensive
<1> foxLink: v4l
<0> foxLink: modprobe v4l
<2> na thats not it
<1> foxLink: there are a bunch of video for linux modules
<1> foxLink: modprobe the driver for your card and it will load the proper v4l modules
<1> eg modprobe bttv2
<2> ya thought it was like videodev or something
<1> foxLink: btw if you have a bttv card i _highly_ suggest using the v4l v2 drivers from www.byte***.org
<0> I wonder if my all in wonder pro would work
<1> foxLink: one of them is. there are several
<1> Idle`: the gatos.sf.net project has the AIW working. and the ati driver from ati.com supports newer aiw's
<0> well, mines OLD
<0> second gen AIW
<1> try the gatos driver then
<0> but for TV capture is the thing
<0> I want to find a way to get it to send video over the network... I would ***ume DSS can do that... or at worst, VLC
<1> yes thats what i was talking about
<1> Idle`: why not mythtv?
<0> can that stream over the network?
<1> Idle`: you run mytv backend on the capture card machine then stream it to mythtv front end
<0> I want to build a web interface where you can just 'click' on the channel, and it will record a timeframe
<1> if you didn't want that then i'd use vlc since it can stream nicely
<1> Idle`: mythtv has a web interface
<0> very nice
<0> mac os client side?
<1> Idle`: i even found a web site talking about streaming video to vcast capable phones
<1> Idle`: there was work to port mythtv frontend to mac but i don't know if they finished
<1> Idle`: i fyou want to stream to a mac i'd use vlc
<0> vlc can do cli streaming then
<0> I primarily want recording
<1> yeah
<1> Idle`: what do you mean? Remote scheduling of recording but not viewing remotely/
<0> yea, thatd be ideal, so that I can just watch accross a network share or whatnot
<1> Idle`: mythtv is perfect for that
<0> :D
<1> Idle`: so you're going to stick with your fastora?
<1> Idle`: the problems we found with ours is that the hardware is excellent but the sales and support staff are subpar
<1> although I hope we move to a fibre channel SAN next time we do a big storage upgrade
<0> yea
<0> in a year we're probably going to go Fibre as well
<1> Idle`: haha can you afford it?
<0> we grow by about 3-5 gigs a day
<0> yea
<1> Idle`: oh you probably do need a SAN
<0> :)
<1> Idle`: iscsi and ata over ethernet are good alternatives to look at
<0> the fastora was for a customer
<1> ahh
<0> I think fibre channel is good
<0> fibre channel isn't all that expensive, and we can afford it
<0> we use PC hardware tho
<1> if something breaks plan on waiting for parts. they had to ship a replacement cpu board from asia. took almost 3 weeks for them to get it to us
<0> the penny pincher customer was on the mac, and wanted cheap hardware
<1> ahh
<0> yea, thats how long it took them
<1> then he sure as hell shouldn't have been using macs
<0> we asked them SEVERAL ttimes if we could use external drives on the array... the sales, AND tech support said OK
<1> liars
<0> we FINALLY got an application engineer on the phone, and he goes 'no, cant be done'... instantly
<1> Idle`: although maybe they were confused? sure you can use external disks but the fastora can't manage them
<0> I think the problem was the other guy was calling, and he was generally ineffective at communicating the situation
<1> yeah
<0> I asked the sales guy directly if we could add external drives to the array, he said yes
<1> because you can use other disks that the PC can communicate with on the same scsi bus
<1> Idle`: yikes
<0> yep, we know that now
<0> thats OK, we had 4 more drives, and 4 more bays, and 7 trays (canibalized)
<0> oh, I wanted to ask
<0> how critical is cylender/platter count when building an array... we have 2 drives, same manufacturer, same size, but COMPLETELY different head/cylender counts
<1> Idle`: fibre channel isn't cheap though when you consider the cost of switch fabrics. and those pesky GBIC/GBIX that constantly burn out.
<1> Idle`: you'll end up losing a tiny amount of space since they likely aren't exactly the same size
<0> well, price isn't much of an issue... we can afford the big arrays
<0> Trey: strangely, they are.... :(
<1> even down to the byte count? I doubt that
<0> would it really make that big of a difference? as in, would it be OK to raid them?
<0> Trey: they are, its so wierd
<1> Idle`: but thats not the issue. speed of the disks is. they need to have the same throughput rates
<0> at least, on the fastora they show up the same
<0> online its 146 and 147gb drives... so wierd
<0> yea, theyre both 10k's... :S
<1> 146 != 147
<0> I know, but on the fastora theyre the same size
<1> Idle`: similar access times and cache sizes
<1> its probably showing the smaller size for both
<1> since for raid 5 all the raided partitions are exactly the same size
<0> before raiding
<1> rounding maybe. dunno
<0> they both have 4.7ms seek times...
<0> so you think it would be OK then
<1> then you should be fine
<1> yeah
<0> okie dokie
<0> I thought cylender count made a big difference
<1> also you should worry about heat. those drives put out a lot so keep the unit well cooled
<0> we have 2 completely mismatched drives in our voip box tho... 1x 120gb maxtor, 1x 100gb U-something
<1> Idle`: it depends on how the raiding works but generally it doesn't matter
<0> yea, we have AC's for the server rooms, and not the offices... its funny
<0> raid 1... it crashes at least once a week for us
<1> Idle`: for nearly all modern drives sector, cylinder and head count are all logical and do not usually match the physical drive
<0> I just noticed they were completely wrong matched drives...
<1> Idle`: if its causing your problems then use the same drive
<0> hm, ok
<0> thats on the IDE ones
<0> we're mainly wondering the new ones
<1> ah
<0> its kernel panic'd twice in the last week... once while I was on the phone with tech support for our main server
<1> i would say call fastora but i don't know if that will help. :-/
<1> do good testing
<0> no no, thats not on the fastora
<0> fastora has 10k scsi... we dont know if we're gonna raid5 all 8 drives, or only 4 + 4...
<0> the one that has issues is IDE, our VOIP box
<0> I've gotta say tho, the old drives in the fastora are a HELL of a lot slower then the ones that came with it
<0> gr. damned torrent... 91KB/sec... now its at 12KB/sec
<0> I want my damned armada 2
<1> Idle`: we went the 2x4 raid config we've also got the extra external HBA so both of our db servers connect to the same fastora and if one goes down the other can mount the raid it doesn't have mounted
<0> yea :D
<0> theyre only going to have 1 connected...
<0> so I think we're going to just go 1x 8
<3> and so goes the connection to work, and all of works irc clietns with it
<3> o_O
<0> english?
<3> wha?
<0> speak english
<4> Idle`: translation; somebody f'ed up, and brought down fort worth :p
<0> k?
<0> that voip phone I got rules
<4> yeah...
<0> cept the special little joystick thing, it kinda ****s... too slippery, even with the bead of gel on it... my ooold cellphone had one too, it was better
<0> w00t
<1> stupid belwave
<0> w00t, family business is on
<0> I love that show, so funny
<1> channel?
<0> Showcase Action
<0> not work/family safe
<0> hes a porn mogul :)
<1> cathouse?
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