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<0> this laptop is in the same ip range as everything else
<0> pretty much everything is the same
<0> except for the internet
<0> any ideas?
<0> is there some simple logging i can do to check whats happening? or do i have to capture packets?
<1> hello again.
<0> welp im gonna reboot
<1> aye.
<1> I'm on Suse 10.2, just tried to compile a gnuchess in a terminal window, and was informed I don't ahve a C compiler in my $PATH
<1> could someone help me take care of this little annoyance?
<1> good thing I remembered the old 'gcc' term... found it and installed it.
<0> do locate gcc
<1> aye.
<1> did that, installed it, and this time gnuchess got past ./configure
<1> but I couldn't get it to complie.
<1> compile.
<0> then PATH=$PATH:/usr/wherever gcc is
<0> oh
<1> "error previous declaration of 'input_thread'
<0> anything else?
<1> input.o error 1
<1> all error 2
<1> all-recursive error 1
<0> yeah find the first one
<1> I've been back into the linux world for only a few hours, and already I 've managed to keep the simplest things complicated.
<0> itll say gtk is missing or something is missing
<1> find the first one?
<1> prolly.
<1> didn't know I needed gtk.
<0> nah tht was an example
<1> would have thought these things would be installed on a fresh SuSE install that took over 2GB.
<0> yeah
<0> well u never know
<1> hwo do I find out what I'm missing?
<1> I suppose the other option would be to go find a version of chess that's a package - rpm or what not.
<0> sometimes ppl use weird libraries to make their lives easier and ours harder
<1> huh.
<2> duende: why are you compiling anything when SuSE has thousands of prebuilt apps all installable via the yast ftp installer?
<1> yast ftp installer?
<0> scroll up and find the first error?
<2> duende: you do know what yast is?
<1> can't say that I do.
<0> dont ask me awol knows what hes talkin about
<1> last time I did this I was running slak and kernel 1.8 was the latest stable thing out there.
<2> duende: yast == yet another setup tool (SuSE's main admin tool that controls EVERYTHING on your system)
<0> lol sounds nice
<1> alllrighty.
<2> every distro has it's own tools... learn to use the distro's tools is best
<1> sounds good.
<0> if only i had a dvd drive for the suse iso's
<2> look for it in your menu's
<2> start yast then point the installation medium to ftp.suse.com and then you have like 10k apps instantly available
<1> I see 'install software' off of what could only be described as a not-so-named start button.
<2> Kiff: you can install suse from a single floppy disk
<1> alrighty, found yast.
<1> aaaaaah.
<0> i dont have any loppy drives either
<1> ok, this YaST thing is looking much nicer.
<0> so awol do i have to packet capture to figure out whats going on or is there a simpler way
<0> i have lan but no ine
<0> inet
<2> Kiff: go look in some dumpsters.... floppy drives are like worth $0.50c at most....
<0> lol
<1> awol: unable to create catalog
<2> Kiff: what? what's your problem?
<0> slackware is fine for now
<2> i just got here... i've been watching tv...
<0> oh its up the page a bit. but i have the mad wireless all working nice now. can do all normal lan communications but no ine
<0> inet
<2> duende: if you have been manually installing things you can easily break yer whole rpm database and render the yast thing unusable
<0> laptop is in same ip range
<0> everyhting in heory should work
<2> Kiff: what's in /etc/resolv.conf file? ya should put yer isp's dns server ip addresses in there
<0> theory*
<1> :|
<1> ummm.
<1> not successfully.
<1> tried to with bitchx, ended up going through the install software menus that pulled it off of suse install disks.
<1> tried to with chess, but never got p***ed compiling error.
<0> i usually just use my local dns on my linux router
<1> so, I'm not exactly working around the safeguards that are 'noob too stupid to mess it up yet'
<2> duende: as i said... point the installation medium to ftp.suse.com or local mirror
<0> ill give it a go i guess
<2> Kiff: you running your own dns server? i dont think so....
<1> couldn't get ftp.suse.com it would seem.
<1> trying to find mirrors.
<1> either that or it wanted a path once connected.
<2> duende: you also need to find the exact file path on the repository... a browser is handy for that
<2> duende: it's been a few years since i used suse... but i doubt it's changed all that much
<0> hmm i always point my cleints dns to named or dnsmasq running on router
<0> anyway ill try pointing ot isp's
<2> Kiff: i get my linux routers to auto hand out my isp's dns server ip addresses via dhcp
<1> aye... I really hate to say it, but it was so much easier to get chess installed on xp.
<0> yeah i dont really like dhcp
<2> duende: ubuntu > winXP
<2> Kiff: dhcp kicks butt
<1> have that on another cd that I'll toy around with later.
<1> part of what's messing with me is how much this isn't like slack.
<2> duende: every distro has it's own quirks
<2> my strength is i know all the quirks.. or most of them
<2> i'm still learning every day tho
<0> awol how do you forward ports and such?
<1> yah, somehow I remember chatting with you a few years ago.
<0> dont we all
<2> Kiff: with iptables of course.... easiest tool is quicktables
<2> !wtf qtables?
<0> and dhcp?
<3> I heard that qtables is a simple and very moron friendly firewall/NAT generating script written by pb24ss and you can get it at http://freshmeat.net/projects/quicktables/ or with wget http://awol.no-ip.org/qtables/quicktables-2.3.tar.gz
<0> lol i know what qickables are
<2> Kiff: i'm talking to you now from behind two nat'd firewalls
<0> great.. so you have perminant ip set for your boxes though...
<2> nope... just dyunamic ip... i use no-ip.com tho
<0> heh.. i mean on the lan..
<2> my server's address is always awol.no-ip.org
<2> on my lan and my wlan i use dhcp
<0> lol yeah and mines kiff.no-ip
<0> noip2 is a great script
<2> indeed
<0> yeah wiht hte dhcp on the lan.. u get a new ip address everytime you urn your pc on?
<2> no. usually it hands the same dynamic ip to the same machines
<2> it seems to remember the mac addy's
<0> ok
<2> i never bothered to question the why of it
<0> ah
<0> see whenever i had dhcp on id get hte next ip again
<0> and made it dificult or pro orwards
<0> port forwards*
<2> sometimes i set a static ip for whatever machine i use as an apt-cacher
<0> my damn f and t keys are screwy.. makes it really hard to type
<2> try this firewall script... edit to suit.... http://awol.no-ip.org/awol/configs/rc.firewall
<2> is what i use
<1> should have gone for hte DVD option... this disk flipping is crazy.
<2> duende: point the installation medium away from the cd's and towards the ftp site and ya wont have to swap disks
<2> ya just have to be online is all
<1> good point.
<2> imho ubuntu > suse > wincrap
<0> im too tired to compare it to mine right now.. seems very short though
<1> it just seemed a little too happy/friendly for me.
<2> Kiff: i used that same firewall on my wisp network of over +40 old P133's running as AP's
<1> ok, with the 'windows domain membership' does that let me see my shared windows folders in a similar way as network neighborhood?
<2> Kiff: clients connected to the network normally then got online via vpn tunnels
<2> duende: i've never really played with wincrap connectivity because i dont have any wincrap machines
<1> ah.
<2> sorry... cant help much with that
<2> i hate M$
<0> awol still no joy wiht my isp dns eihter
<2> i blame M$ for all the stupid viruses and worms clogging the internet
<2> Kiff: can you ping ip's?
<1> it's all good, thanks.
<0> local yes external no
<2> Kiff: ok... the first pthing to do is get to ping outside ip's
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