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<hektik_> when i do a w it says how many users are logged in but it doesnt show the info for them
<tims> on debian i am trying to compile mythtv, when i use make it errors saying qgl.h not found, if i apt-get install libqt3-dev-mt it fixes that error but then says im missing libqt.prl (becayse the libqt3-mt-dev removes libqt-dev) ... any ideas ?
<Rax`> hello all, are there any iptables / tc experts here ? :-)
<steveng> is it possible that the type of motherboard and/or processor I have could cause linux to boot extremely slow?
<arno> how much ram?
<steveng> 1GB
<arno> does it 'hang' at any point in the process?
<steveng> long time afer the Booting kernel....long time at Starting Udev and forever right when X starts...all i get is a black screen with X in the center
<steveng> long time as in 1, 3, 20+ minutes respectively
<steveng> actually it's never been able to boot into X
<steveng> well... i honestly think its the motherboard or something cause I've changed out everything else I can change out
<steveng> and I'm running the distro of linux on this computer that I'm trying to run on my desktop
<bougyman> somehow I read that your linux box has been starting up since november
<steveng> yeah
<bougyman> i was gonna give you the award for Most Patient Being ever
<bougyman> sounds more like your window manager
<bougyman> if you see the cursor, X is starting
<bougyman> try a very light wm
<bougyman> ratpoison or twm or ion
<bougyman> see if they start up ok
<bougyman> also look at /var/log/xorg.log.0
<steveng> tried knoppix too
<steveng> still very slow
<bougyman> knoppix is kde
<bougyman> of course it will be slow
<bougyman> that's part of the design goal.
<bougyman> to make linux on cd so slow no one dares actually run it.
<Qwell> bougyman: Can you smoke in buildings (ie; the airport) in Dallas?
<bougyman> not at the airport
<bougyman> and not in dallas
<Qwell> lame..
<bougyman> but in fort worth and most suburbs you can.
<bougyman> lame indeed
<Qwell> any idea if there are any places in the airport?
<bougyman> chicago is no smoking everywhere
<bougyman> no, you have to walk out and back in
<bougyman> it ****s
<Qwell> ugh
<Qwell> Denver rocks
<bougyman> chicago is the same way
<Qwell> they've got "The Smoking Lounge"
<bougyman> but even more restrictive at restaurants.
<bougyman> yeah, denver and phoenix have that
<bougyman> a smoking lounge
<bougyman> 1 drink minimum
<Qwell> yeah
<Qwell> damn good idea
<Qwell> I was talking to one of the bartenders last time I went through there...
<steveng> ok well ill check back with ya later
<steveng> i gotta head out
<Qwell> they sell more alcohol per year, than any other place in CO
<bougyman> i bet
<Idle`> Qwell is a smoker?
<Qwell> No, I just pretend, and try to act cool around real smokers
<Idle`> sounds like you
<knoppixit> hello i need help, i save a persistent knoppix session image and when i reboot i type in "knoppix home=scan" and it doesn't work, it doesn't give me an error or nothing it just doesn't work.
<knoppixit> i am using the knoppix 5.0 dvd disc
<KlrSpz> can anyone suggest a good mp3 streamer for my lan boxes to synchronously play? trying to find something better than shoutcast
<Idle`> vlc maybe
<KlrSpz> not a player, a server
<Idle`> vlc
<Idle`> it does
<Idle`> it can even multicast
<Idle`> hm
<Idle`> what does alt-sysreq do for xorg?
<KlrSpz> all i have is cli
<KlrSpz> Idle`,
<KlrSpz> needing like a daemon
<KlrSpz> seems like shoutcast is the best deal so far
<Idle`> yea, you can involk vlc from the cli
<Idle`> oh
<KlrSpz> which is a shame.. cuz i wanted a nice web interface
<KlrSpz> no xorg
<KlrSpz> :(
<Idle`> ok, then you can use Darwin Streaming Server
<Idle`> no
<Idle`> vlc doens't need X
<Idle`> if you run it as a server
<Idle`> but DSS is what your looking for
<Idle`> haha
<Idle`> DSS has a web interface too
<Idle`> DSS can do multicast as well
<KlrSpz> k
<Idle`> you need to stream to dss tho if you want to do multicast last I checked... but I didn't really look too deep
<KlrSpz> what do you mean by multicast?
<KlrSpz> have other people cast through the transcoder?
<Idle`> no
<Idle`> thats what needs to be done for it to multicast IIRC
<Idle`> but thats not how it multicasts
<Idle`> multicast is 1 stream, many listeners
<KlrSpz> ah
<KlrSpz> yeah that's what i want
<click_> yum install rpm-build
<click_> what is this for?
<KlrSpz> click_, you asking me?
<click_> yes
<KlrSpz> i just want my boxes on my lan to listen to the same thing
<KlrSpz> ie, walk through the house and hear the same music
<Idle`> KlrSpz: yea, itll do that
<KlrSpz> i also wanna be able to skip/select songs from a web-gui or somethin
<Idle`> dunno if that will work so well...
<Idle`> look into it, I've not personally used it
<KlrSpz> my buddy uses Tunez [ http://tunez.sourceforge.net/ ]
<KlrSpz> it's ok, but kinda buggy here n there
<KlrSpz> and ugly
<Idle`> :P
<click_> which is the latest stable kernel ?
<Idle`> kernel.org
<click_> The latest stable version of the Linux kernel is: 2.6.17.3 is beta one isnt it ?
<Idle`> no
<Idle`> there is no beta in the kernel
<trix`G> hello
<trix`G> Quick question: Using a single monitor, how do I open a second session of X from the console? Preferably without closing the first one
<Idle`> startx -- -display :1
<Idle`> I think... maybe --display
<trix`G> nope didn't work
<trix`G> either one
<Idle`> DISPLAY=:1 startx
<Idle`> oh wait
<Idle`> startx :1
<trix`G> nope
<Idle`> yep
<Idle`> mine works
<Idle`> --
<Idle`> startx -- :2
<trix`G> "Fatal Server Error: Server already active for display 0"
<Idle`> works great
<trix`G> that worked
<trix`G> startx -- :1 worked
<trix`G> thanks!
<Idle`> yea
<Idle`> :)
<trix`G> now how do I tell it to start blackbox instead of gnome?
<Idle`> god damn cifs ****s some serious donkey ****
<Idle`> trix`G: depends how it starts gnone...
<trix`G> well jeez I'm sorry
<Idle`> if its fedora, changedesk
<trix`G> SuSE
<Idle`> or womething along those lines
<trix`G> 10.1
<Idle`> well, trace it down. check your .xinitrc in ~
<trix`G> that file does not exist
<trix`G> I see .xsession-errors
<Frazzydee> hello, I just installed linux recently, and I'm looking to increase the partition size for linux (and decrease the windows partition size). Is it safe to use partition magic if I already have both operating systems installed?
<Idle`> find the system one. probably in /etc
<Frazzydee> (the reason I ask is because I think it plays around with some bootloader settings)
<trix`G> i see .gtkrc
<Idle`> Frazzydee: its never safe to resize a partition...
<Idle`> it changes the MBR, yes
<Idle`> ****
<Frazzydee> Idle`: do I have another option?


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