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<0> could someone check if this works again http://71.104.33.213/
<1> Naked Women
<0> last time i hope
<2> http://img480.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot3qz.png
<1> hell i figure if you can get Randall .. then i should get nekkid wooomen
<1> atomi: still ok :)
<2> hehe
<0> ok
<1> johnny06: you trust ff with your downloads?
<2> yeah,me too,but wanted to use ff for yje moment don't know why
<1> :)
<3> :o)
<2> man,i am really upset,the police in belgium confiscated a p2p server,one of the most important
<4> I need a program to cut movie parts from a .mpeg , for windows xp , any ideas ?
<2> i don't use windows,ask Randall ,he does



<5> for windows xp...
<4> it`s for a friend , that`s why i am asking , and i also think adobe premiere is too leet for her :)
<6> i'm trying to get libtermcap.so.2 installed or later or earlier. I've installed ncurses and gnu termcap / what else would contain libtermcap.so.* ?
<1> dalek: for me its libtermcap-compat heh
<1> but terminfo ?
<1> could be called that too
<7> my X-Server is working again :-D
<1> woot
<7> yeah :)
<7> I m a linux-n00b :)
<1> welcome to the club :D
<7> yeah
<7> now its time for new Firefox :)
<2> kutzooi; http://www.boilsoft.com/videosplitter/faq.html
<8> yo
<1> ho ho and a bottle of rim
<4> ok johnny06 thank you
<2> np
<4> does anyone have knowledge about basic economy stuff ?
<2> kroko; you mean how prices rise and fall in a free market?
<9> supply/demand/elasticity/inelasticity ?
<4> johnny06 nah , basic stuff about stock markets
<4> i was wondering if only brokers are allowed to buy/sell stocks directly
<10> all you need to know is that if you ahve to ask you shouldn't risk your money in it, as you definitely don't know enough to dabble safely. :)
<9> lol
<4> bofh` people loose their money all the time , you know food , clothes , expensive vacations :)
<10> rules as to who can buy vary by the particular exchange
<4> i just want to get some info , planning to take some economy cl***es
<2> There are many different stock brokers to choose from such as full service brokers or discount brokers. The full service brokers usually charge more per trade, but give investment advice or more personal service; the discount brokers offer little or no investment advice but charge less for trades. Another type of broker would be a bank or credit union that may have a deal set up with either a full service or discount broker.
<10> nyse and nasdaq both require dealing with a registered broker as far as I knoww
<10> stocks on other exchanges/general public stock from smaller companies can at times be bought with no broker
<9> markets get paid for the right to access the floor
<4> i see , thanks
<4> so any of you has bought stocks before ?
<9> bought them... yes many times made money on them not as many times
<2> When it comes to financing a purchase of stocks there are two ways: purchasing stock with money that is currently in the buyers ownership or by buying stock on margin. Buying stock on margin means buying stock with money borrowed against the stocks in the same account. These stocks, or collateral, guarantee that the buyer can repay the loan; otherwise, the stockbroker has the right to sell the stocks (collateral) to repay the
<2> borrowed money. He can sell if the share price drops below the margin requirement, at least 50 percent of the value of the stocks in the account. Buying on margin works the same way as borrowing money to buy a car or a house using the car or house as collateral. Moreover, borrowing is not free; the broker usually charges 8-10 percent interest.
<10> not directly. bought stock through employee purchase program when I worked at walmart and I think I did at quill, ahve since sold it. and buy stock through my 401k, but I don't touch that, don't manage it at all, they manage it for me
<10> buying on margin of course is the source of the great depression and black tuesday
<9> johnny06: get a etrade subscription and knock yourself out
<9> you will have the same tools as the day-traders
<4> P38 so i guess you need time and knowledge if you plan on getting stocks
<10> or insider information. ;)
<9> kroko: there is a group of women that have been buying / selling stocks for the past 30 years.. and are quite wealthy now .. that use a dart board to determine what to buy and sell
<9> that is as near to random trading as you can get
<4> P38 sounds fair enough , and how did the group made the first investment ? sold the group`s member`s brains ?
<9> kroko: no it isnt a joke the market, as long as the economy is doing well, will also tend to do well
<10> or course the market doing well as a whoel means absolutely nothing if you only have stock in a few companies
<9> so, if you are prepared to ride it out, you can usually make more money on the market than you can on savings accounts and the like
<2> buy low and sell high
<10> which is part of reason I prefer to let my 401 or a mutual fund do any stock market work for me
<9> bofh``: exactly. diversity is the key
<10> have 401 spread out between 7-9 funds with shares in probalby 500-1000 companies
<4> P38 damn , usa surprises me every p***ing day :)
<9> you have to spread your risk over a large segment of the market
<9> kroko: ?
<4> i mean i would have never thought people would play darts to trade stocks
<10> t-bills guarantee a return, but always at a low rate. get into futures markets, margin buying, puts(think that's name, memory's slipping today for some reason), you can rake in a high return really quickly, but you can also lose the money just as fast
<9> kroko: if you can imagine it, people have used it to try to predict the market and make money
<10> using darts to pick stocks is no stupider than people who claim to "invest" by buying lottery tickets
<9> risk and return are proportional



<10> hell, the darts are a lot better overall as long as market is doing well
<4> yup
<9> the more you are willing to risk, the more you can potentially make
<9> bofh``: mainly, the darts helped them get a diverse portfolio
<10> yep, which is why a big fund manager from a company like principal(place I have my 401k) or state farm(people who will do my mutual funds in a few years) can almost always give a better return, percentage wise, than individual investors
<10> they can invest more time in studying and learning the market, and also have more money to leverage
<4> yes , but i think if you invest on your own , you really need to know some info about the company you are investing in , not just looking over a graph
<10> that's when you start watching for public information and hop on it quick
<9> bofh``: you sound like a day trader :-) looking for the quick buck
<10> read sites like pubmed.com abnd look for promising medical research projects, and invest in the company before their stock skyrockets. the key is in picking the right companies
<10> haha, not me, I stick with my steady return on my 401k. or even lower return, but stabler investment, in material goods. guns, a bit of silver and gold, etc
<3> RIDE THE PIG#!*!^%~$^$*%
<4> yeah , that`s what i was talking about
<4> :)
<2> medical resarch projects are quite sure
<10> make friends with someone who works in medical research like I have. ;) course, he's not working on anything likely to make any money right now. his last project would have, but didn't pan out
<4> gold is beeing a good investment as far as i can see , i mean for the last years it`s value is increasing very well
<9> kroko: i am convinced that the trick to accumulating wealth is to simply force yourself to save some of everything you make and ride the compound interest curve
<9> kroko: gold is only a good investment when the economy is doing very poorly
<10> in long term gold will go back down again
<9> you will lose your *** in precious metals
<10> what gold does do is hold it's value against inflation well, historically. while a bad recession can make even 5-10% on investments a loss when you factor in inflation
<10> there's a reason Ionly have a small bit in gold and silver(plus fact I'm poor ;) )
<2> me too,i am poor
<10> hell, sadly enough, best investment I"ve made over last few years is probably the 3 or so cases of 7.62x39 ammo since there's basically none in the country right now. :)
<9> if you want to make money fast, the real-estate market is where it is at
<4> P38 well i just wanted to know stuff because the stock thingie amazes me , i dont want to accumulate wealth , and i also think loosing half of your life for money like some people do is a good thing
<9> high risk and very high returns
<1> :o
<3> !
<9> when i was in highschool, we were give the lesson on compound interest. $25 / week over 40 years adds to to a huge sum
<1> hehe
<1> its nice and tiny
<1> :D
<9> znx: tiny fonts == tiny ???
<1> hrmm?
<4> p38 that`s 25 $ x 56 x 40
<1> oh yeah but this one is tiny and doesnt **** :P
<9> kroko: no, you forgot the interest rate
<4> oh yeah
<10> heh
<4> what`s the interest rate in us ? like average
<4> with no interest that`s 56k
<10> that's why I contribute the 100/mo or whatever it is I'm giving to 401k now
<10> nothing much, but 40-50 years down the road when I retire, will make for a nice little retirement fund
<2> interest rate over here is 3.5
<2> nn everybody
<1> nite
<9> bofh``: http://www.csgnetwork.com/save401kcalc.html
<10> yeah, principal has tha ton their site for their users
<4> that looks nice
<4> btw , when you finish highschool in us , you have to give an exam i think , is it called thc or sat ?
<9> i took the SAT
<1> heh
<9> that is not standard across the US
<10> sat and act
<4> and what`s the standard ?
<10> don't actually ahve to take either
<4> act is easier than sat ?
<9> and the SAT is not a highschool exit exam. it is used to determine your readiness to proceed to college
<4> well i will need to get one of them i dont know which
<10> ther'es no standard, you take whichever one colleges you want to go to accept. most schools will take either, some only accept one or the other
<4> oh i see
<10> I took the act
<4> and how about toefl ?
<10> I have no idea what that is, but I might have taken it and jsut not know. :)
<9> isnt that a white gel that goes in oriental food ?
<10> I was thinking along lines of toejam myself
<3> Where'd my moose go?
<9> ick they dont use toejam in oriental food
<9> even i know that
<4> P38 what college did you go to ?
<4> bofh` it`s an english exam and it`s like toefl -> sat -> sat2


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