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<0> that's a lot of coffee
<1> so he brought me another... full cup
<2> ok i've got xfree86 .. oh man i gotta install nano
<0> yah, nano's not bad
<3> vi!!
<0> or vim
<0> :-D
<1> vi there is no substitute
<3> P38 i think we've got the wind you had the other day lol
<4> mmm, vi
<1> enigma-: i heard that on the news... sounds like NJ got hit pretty bad today
<3> yeah we have it real bad right now
<1> *****s cant take a little wind
<1> :-)
<3> well here's the thing i am beside the ocean :D
<3> its a bit stronger then NJ lol
<1> yeah it gets bad over water
<3> man fedora core 5 looks bubbly :/
<3> http://linux-noob.com/screenshots/fedora/5/T2/screenshots/snapshot15.html
<1> enigma-: i got time delay pictures of the wind tearing up my pool cover
<1> lucky me
<3> lol
<1> i think im going to make an avi out of it
<1> bbn a while
<1> im going for a smoke
<3> you smoke?
<2> Hike, im reading the faq but .i don't really understand it .. 2: installation: package .. firstly i obviously have to know which kernel im running, how do i do that?
<0> uname -r
<2> ok 2.6.13-15.7-default
<2> .. 2.6 kernel then. ok next step .. "DRI modules can be built" .. is that what im supposed to do?
<0> probably already are
<0> have a look in /lib/modules/[kernel version]/ and just find -name "dr*.ko"
<3> FEL http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2005.1/handbook-x86.xml?full=1
<2> Hike, ./extra/drbd.ko
<2> ./kernel/drivers/char/drm/drm.ko
<2> enigma-, , i'll save that for later
<3> i made a hard copy out of it hehe
<0> ok, so you have drm, probably also have agpgart and radeon - move radeon.ko somewhere where it don't be found
<0> but keep it
<2> rgr, w8
<0> then install the ATI drivers from YaST
<2> wait, there's no radeon.ko?
<2> ok sorry i found radeon.ko, i'll move it to my homedir.
<0> ok
<0> just make sure you don't lose it - take note of where it came from
<2> yes, i've saved the path in a file now . ok now i'll start yast and see if i can find anything on "ati"
<0> yup
<3> http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060118/tc_afp/bulgariausinternet
<0> if not, put radeon.ko back where you found it, cause you'll have to find the drivers and install them yourself
<0> also, if 'ati' search fails, try 'fglrx'
<3> jesus christ and here's the guys suicide not
<3> http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=2000075&topic=25527152&page=0
<3> he killed himself on webcam so everyone could see
<2> in yast i can choose alot of different things, im supposed to choose software management? (i've searched for fglrx in the software management but there's nothing, thats why i came here in the first place)
<0> Jesus Christ...
<0> FEL: can you search the names of every package in yast?
<2> i dont know if it searches thru every pkg but i guess it does? i cant find ati nor flgr
<2> x
<2> fglrx, sorry
<2> in ubunti i had to add various repositires, there's no such thing in suse?
<2> ubuntu .. errr..
<0> sorry, not really sure, don't know sus
<0> *suse
<2> hmm ok :P so i guess im stuck ..
<3> HAHAHAHA
<3> http://trenchier2.blogspot.com/2005/05/people-share-darndest-things.html
<2> hike what dist are you using?
<0> I use gentoo, tho atm I'm on a crappy uni machine running win98
<0> enigma: HAHAHAHAHAH
<2> heh ok. well let's say i change dist, and manage to install fglrx, what would the next step be?
<3> yeah lol
<0> uhrm, move agpgart.ko, [mb-chipset]-agp.ko, and radeon.ko somewhere where the module autoloader can't find them. then either rewrite your x configuration with all the right params and the driver as fglrx, or run fglrxconfig (making a backup of x config beforehand)which should do it for you
<3> http://www.text-image.com/convert/ <--- cool
<2> thanks hike.
<2> i'll give gentoo a try heheh.
<0> np
<0> uhrm... a warning, gentoo is weird, and somewhat difficult, esp. if you haven't been using linux for very long
<0> their howtos are excellent... but you have to know what you're doing
<2> hm ok .. well .. if i can't get it to work in any other dist i might aswell try it.
<2> i really appreciate you're time though i'll probably see you around in the next few ... weeks
<2> months
<2> v helpful and friendly chan.
<0> lol
<0> np
<0> I think ubuntu or debian might work as well. debian irritates me cause it has weird config and old software, but ubuntu is ok
<4> uh, the debian apt respository is the largest and most up-to-date single source for linux applications. if you have old software it's by choice, not through lack of options
<0> even testing distro by default installs sw that's considered outdated. don't update because of over-stringent stability rules
<0> *compatibility rule
<0> s
<0> unstable's the only one that has the latest stuff, but its name is intimidating :-P
<3> thats debian in a nutshell hehe "UNSTABLE"
<0> well said
<5> could someone please help me modify my xorg.conf file so I can use 4 monitors; 2 on 2 different video cards? Thanks
<3> wtf
<0> thus gentoo. which has recent versions of software AND generally works. though admittedly (refuting my own argument) I've had some cases where it's rendered my system unbootable until I downgrade something :-P
<0> holycrap that's scary
<3> yeah there are some broken libs hehe
<6> what distro
<5> suse 10
<3> i've heard of dual display lol but quad thats kinda overkill
<7> sorry enigma
<7> i lost your nick
<3> np dude
<6> what's with all the people using suse lately?
<7> ;-|
<5> one's a DLP projector :)
<3> grep no idea man
<6> such a crappy OS
<5> suse is?
<3> agreed
<3> yes
<5> which do you prefer?
<3> you might as well me using mandrake
<6> fedora
<3> if you are new to linux use fedora
<6> you don't have to be new to use fedora
<6> it's a solid OS
<3> fan boy :P
<6> damn skippy
<3> nah i like it too
<3> i been using it since 1
<6> never heard me complain about it
<5> even if i install fedora i'd still encounter the same problems
<6> me too
<3> i like gentoo alot as well though
<6> CalDude: you could use system-config-display to do it on fedora
<3> CalDude but probably with a much easier work around
<3> #1 yast ****s *** as a package manager
<3> #2 the OS itself generaly just ****s
<3> and the third strike is it just ****s
<5> 10 uses a new version of Yast... so far so good...
<3> SuSe is SuSe and it will always be SuSe
<8> there has to be a reason we see hardly a soul installing SuSe aroound here....
<3> mandrake ****ed *** so bad they even tried getting fancy with the name so people would try it
<3> but it still ****s
<0> fedora is not solid. it doesn't boot.
<6> fedora is damn solid
<3> Corky there have been alot lately
<8> fedora is so dam easy my granma could get it installed :)
<3> Hike i been using it since 1 without a problem lol
<6> same here
<7> same here
<5> allright.... then ill probably switch... but ill still encounter the monitor situation... can anyone help me edit the xorg.conf?
<0> installing it isn't an issue. it's using it. I've tried each and every single release, each one has installed flawlessly.. crash on bot
<0> *boot
<3> CalDude when you get to that point do as grep said
<3> system-config-display
<8> CalDude: lookup your monitor and graphics card specs and add it into the .conf... or just system-config-display
<3> Hike what do you have for a machine?
<5> ok... fedore 4, here i come...
<0> [blush] Dell laptop
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