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<0> oh
<1> so go download and isntall it
<2> the next issue is.. its created for glibc 2.1
<1> gl btw :p
<2> i have 2.3
<2> :P
<1> what version of php?
<2> 5.0.4
<1> thats old
<1> :P
<2> thats fc4's version
<2> updated version
<1> oh god
<1> rpm?
<1> on a production server?
<1> die.
<0> you don't want to run bleeding edge on a production server
<2> lol
<1> well no, but you dont want rpm either
<0> FluKex: don't listen to him he's a windows boob
<0> yes you do
<1> you should compile it with what you want
<0> there is nothing wrong with rpm
<2> lol
<1> ok, well have fun when it turns out it wasnt compile with something you want
<1> you'll then have to remove the rpm and compile it manually
<1> which you should of done the first time around
<0> no no no
<0> square: if you are ever in a large datacenter enviroment you will figure out why packages are good
<1> yeah
<1> but he has one server
<1> not 300
<1> :)
<2> thats irrelevant
<0> ya that just shows there is nothing wrong with packages
<2> if you can do it with 300 servers
<2> you can do it with 1
<1> Jy, i know
<0> FluKex: yep
<1> i didnt say there was
<2> and if i can do it by packages, i'll stick to rpm's
<2> i can compile easily enough if needed
<1> but if he wants something that isnt compiled in, in the rpm
<2> but i'll work on a rpm way first
<1> he'll need to compile php
<0> the rpm has what 99% of what people need in it
<1> just means more work in the long run
<0> or they include it as modules of php
<1> Jy, says who?
<1> says the guy who built the rpm
<1> hes not 90% of peopel
<1> or she :p
<0> have you ever seen what is included in the fedora php rpm?
<0> it has MOST of everything php has to offer
<1> you're just proving my point
<2> except zend
<2> :P
<1> think of all the useless crap thats compiled then
<3> Logan5: :o
<0> the php rpm can't have zend included
<3> hahaha
<1> zend is loaded when the php module is loaded by apache
<1> afaik
<3> yeah i think thats right
<1> but php must know to load zend or not
<1> which the rpm cant do
<2> reading zend's website
<1> hence compile it yourself you lazy get
<1> :P
<2> its a line in php.ini
<2> and you dont recompile php
<0> square: you are doing things the hard way
<2> according to zend's website
<1> i never said you did
<1> not for zend anyhow
<0> its just editing a file
<2> um
<1> Jy, yeah.. i know but if i want something that the rpm version doesnt have, you have to compile manually, and for me that was always the case
<1> means that if he comes to the same conclusion, hes gonna have to remove the rpm then compile php
<1> was trying to save time, compiling php is easy
<1> you know what im saying makes sense
<0> square: you do not have to recompile anything
<1> :P
<2> welll
<0> its moving over a file and editing php.ini
<2> that was wayy too easy
<2> untar the zend file
<1> for zend?
<2> run ./install
<0> yes
<2> then boom
<2> done
<1> i never said he had to recompile php for zend
<2> 2 mintues
<2> um
<2> yes you did.
<1> show me
<1> i said if he wants something the rpm doesnt provide you'll need to compile php manually
<1> like certain functions/modules and ****
<1> liek mysql support
<1> sqlite
<2> <1> you'll then have to remove the rpm and compile it manually
<1> prostgrel
<1> etc
<0> dude
<0> fedora includes those as modules of php
<0> hence php-mysql
<0> php-mysqli
<1> FluKex dont take it out of context
<0> php-gd
<1> {19:06:07} <1> ok, well have fun when it turns out it wasnt compile with something you want
<1> {19:06:14} <1> you'll then have to remove the rpm and compile it manually
<0> and like i said before
<0> the fedora rpm has MOST everything you could ever need
<0> anything else you can use like phpize to install it
<1> meaning its heavier than needs be
<0> have you ever done any benchmarks for the "bloated" rpm vs your slimmed down php?
<1> no
<0> so how can you talk like its wrong using the rpm
<1> its not a case of slimmed down, its knowing whats compiled in
<2> oh
<0> and saying its heavy
<2> cept zend installs by default to the wrong php.ini file
<1> if it has almost everything available its gonna be heavy
<4> windows media player runs on linux?
<5> well im back!
<1> hence why people say windows is bloated
<1> etc
<1> omnix, no
<4> sorry, just realized i was reading a conversation from a couple hours back
<4> I'm a little disturbed by how easy rails is to setup and use.
<2> sweet just got my semi annual bonus!
<4> wow bonuses
<1> Jy, since when were you the package guy? i remember you were all about compiling!
<4> i've never seen one of those
<2> i love getting money thrown at me
<1> oh, compile is znx's job.. 24/7
<1> :D
<4> vmware is making money?
<0> heh ya
<3> hrmm?
<4> but they're giving everything away for free.
<2> omnix our sales revenue in december alone was higher then the entire 3rd quarter of last year
<3> square: whats my job?
<4> hot damn
<1> Jy, technically we're both right.. we both had good arugments, im now going to continue using c#/.net
<1> znx, compiling
<1> :p
<4> what's your role in all of it flukex?
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