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<0> i knew you would say that.
<0> its because you dont read anything mtn_man ;)
<1> it's crashed a couple of times, energy saver detected overheat
<1> what I do read, I havfe no clue
<0> because you need patience. :)
<0> it has to sink in.
<1> heheheh
<2> if so :it must be in your path. Locate the java binary which is probably in something like /usr/local/j2sdk1.4.2_02/bin and put it in your path like this
<1> I like programs when they have the rpm's they're easy to install
<2> export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/j2sdk1.4.2_02/bin
<0> mtn_man: i advised you a looooong time ago what to do, and you have have never listened.
<0> ;/
<1> jah: what did you advise me to do?
<3> there is an rpm for the 1.5 jre update
<1> get ubuntu?
<2> http://en.opensuse.org/Java
<0> install Ubuntu.
<0> :D
<0> yep.
<3> lol
<1> heheh
<0> you still remember...
<0> :P
<4> ^_^
<1> mail me a copy
<1> hehe
<0> dude lol i actually will.
<0> BUT
<1> flounder: ready to install???
<1> ??? but??
<0> you would be much better off waiting for the new Ubuntu release.
<3> iunno ... im almost as much a newbie as you
<0> its going to be ***Y,
<1> ok
<1> ***ier than suse?
<1> ***ier than longhorn?
<2> mtn_man http://en.opensuse.org/Java
<0> want me to mail you a Ubuntu 5.10 cd mtn_man ?
<1> ***ier than vista?
<0> i will..
<0> yes mtn_man, vista ****s.
<1> 5.10 is the ***y release?
<0> nah
<1> LOL
<0> the new one aint released proper yet.
<0> you can dl the devel version of it though, its nice.
<1> if I get your disc, will I be able to upgrade the o/s when the new one comes out
<1> ?
<1> ok
<3> can anybody explain the organization of the jre files? their website is confusing to me .... i only see update files for version 5 ... so what would i dl if i needed to first install, not update, my jre?
<0> dude
<0> screw jre.
<0> :P
<0> *my opinion*
<3> isn't that what i need to get the javaa apps to workk for firefox and program in java?
<1> hm
<1> yeah that's why I need to know, flounder
<1> there's a firefox plugin you hafta install also
<3> jahshua why screw jre?
<2> flounder this is for you http://www.crazysquirrel.com/computing/debian/java.jspx
<4> http://b.oooom.net/2qt
<0> ok mtn_man here we go.
<0> you ready?
<2> or like this http://student.cosy.sbg.ac.at/~amayer/files/How-to-install-Java-on-Debian.html
<4> http://b.oooom.net/2qu
<2> & flounder a very good site for debian to learn is here http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/142
<0> flounder: i just dont use it atm, im just joking around. :P
<0> mtn_man ..
<3> johnny06 yea i was using that one to help me firgure out the process, thnx for the helpp tho
<3> it doesn't say why you need to be non-root when you create the .deb ... does anybody know why?
<2> i will show you how i installed java on my debian hold on
<2> http://www.linux-noob.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1795
<4> http://b.oooom.net/2qv
<2> & you can see at the bottom that someone stated that this guide is wrong,though it works perfect for me & never broke down since 1 year now
<1> hey
<1> sorry
<1> whatcha u need?
<1> I mean, I am here
<1> :)
<1> sory
<1> jash?
<0> hey
<1> ok
<0> here ya go :)
<1> ok
<0> http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-7/dapper-live-i386.iso
<1> ?
<4> http://b.oooom.net/2qw
<1> oh that's right
<0> wait
<0> no
<0> this one
<1> I'll need broadband
<0> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-7/dapper-live-i386.iso
<4> http://b.oooom.net/2qx
<0> heh sorry
<3> the thing i that always irks me about most guides is that they just tell you the commands you need to type in ... they don't explain the underlying reasons for using various options or parameters, or why you need to make sure to do something before you do x .....
<1> cdimage can download on dialup?
<0> mtn_man: save the link and email it to yourself, go to a cafe and dl it, it will take maybe and hour, make sure the machine has a cd burner, and burn it. :)
<0> and/an
<1> flounder: yeah I feel your pain
<1> I'm spoiled on GUI
<1> ok
<1> hm, I may ask my bro. if he has hispped I might be able to download it with his ;puter
<1> this is the official ubuntu site?
<0> cool
<0> yah.
<1> ok
<0> make sure to look at the cd after you burn it, put it in the cd drive and open it up and look at, it should have a couple folders with linux blah blah blah etc etc, then you're good.
<1> ok
<0> just to make sure you burned it right..
<1> jah this would be good for a old laptop?
<1> I mean
<1> doesn't require a lot of RAM, processor pwr.?
<1> '
<0> oh this is for an old laptop?
<0> oh hmm
<1> it orig. ran on win 2000
<1> which is why I needed a new o/s
<1> win 00 is terrible for security
<1> flaws
<0> ya
<1> so ubuntu not good?
<0> do you have access to two computer at the same time?
<1> maybe somewhere
<1> what did you recommend?
<0> well, ubuntu is *great* for beginners, but maybe a bit heavy on the system.
<5> <3 archlinux :D
<0> well, i would walk you through a slackware linux setup no problem. :)
<0> or some other one, thats why i was asking about the 2 pc's.
<1> oh ok
<1> oh is ee like remote
<1> ***istance?
<0> hm?
<1> slackware eh?
<5> jahshua: uhm, slack doesn't really have a nice package manager, so it can get a bit uhm, messy after a while
<1> you said walk me thru
<5> especially for a beginner
<1> cippo : oh?
<1> cippo : what is your opinion about what a beginner would need?
<3> so is it possible to use rpms with debian if .deb isn't available?
<0> Cippo: i find slackpkg does the job fine and its super easy.
<1> my head is swimming...hehe
<5> jahshua: well, it doesn't resolve dependencies etc..
<0> thats easy.
<0> www.linuxpackages.net
<0> search the dep. dl it install it.
<3> is there no link for the java 1.5 full install? i only see the 1.4 .....
<0> learn linux.
<5> mtn_man: what CPU do you have?
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