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<0> what linux distro would you advice for a noob? or freebsd?
<1> bofh``: yep it is estimated that 30% of the us population were addicted or using opiates regularly
<2> NOT freebsd
<3> tRrFX, fedora core release 4
<0> Unknown Factoid/Command
<2> fedora core 4, tRrFX
<4> freebsd isn't really hard to use
<4> it doesn't have a nice pretty install
<4> but it isn't hard to use
<1> freebsd is not recommended for a noob
<4> meh
<5> how do i save my iptables config?
<1> linux has the applications there to make it usable from the install. freebsd has access to the same applications, but it requires you to go get them... much steaper learning curve
<5> under FC4 I should say
<1> atomi: /etc/init.d/iptables restart
<5> i thought it was something like sbinservice iptables save



<1> when it stops, it saves its config and when it starts it will pick it back up
<6> iptables-save
<4> if you read the documents, anything is easy.
<6> be careful when doing that
<7> how do i remove tomcat in fedora core
<4> if you don't read anything, most anything will be hard.
<7> i get this error:
<2> ***uming you ahve the underlying base knowledge to understand the docs
<6> you could lock yourself out
<1> magikman: and your point is??
<7> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/0R2q0L51.html
<2> or the time/access to acquire said knowledge
<0> i think i gonna check out fedora. what about ubuntu?
<4> that you can install and use ANY distro as long as you put in the time.
<1> magikman: nobody will argue that
<4> glad to hear that...
<5> so if i do iptables-save and restart the server it should mantain my rules correct?
<1> magikman: my point was that you can scare a noob off if the startup is to painful
<6> iptables-restore will restore rules
<4> but my point is that it isn't too painful
<4> gentoo, yes. freenbsd, no.
<4> -n
<4> :)
<1> gentoo is easy
<5> OmegaEvil: restore rules prior to the sessions changes? let me try all that our
<5> *out
<4> i run it on my laptop and like it lots.
<4> but it is probably the hardeest to install for a noob, by a long-shot.
<4> -e
<7> anyone here using fedora know how to fix rpm removal issues, i can't remove tomcat: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/0R2q0L51.html
<3> is it definetly installed ?
<7> yeah
<3> why are you uninstalling it
<7> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/BzHMW149.html
<7> becuase im trying to get rid of it...
<3> try rpm -ev tomcat5-*
<3> or something like that
<7> same error
<3> seems that the three rpm's are stopping you from removing one
<7> no, those other two depend on the base tomcat
<7> so i can't remove them without removing the base
<7> and the base is what's spitting out that error
<3> ask [Strabo] he uses tomcat
<3> i don't sorry.
<7> thanks anyways
<8> HELLO
<8> we have some LINUX experts here??
<9> **ask
<10> Don't ask if you can ask a question. Don't ask if anyone uses/has used/is familiar with a certain product. Don't ask if anyone's alive/awake/in here. Don't ask if this is a support channel. Just ask your question already.
<11> anyone know the easiest way to make a live cd for like ubuntu with the programs i want
<12> ATL: no we have noobs here
<12> inco: not a program as such.. but you can find various methods for creating live cds
<12> http://www.informatik.fh-muenchen.de/~schieder/ubuntu-livecd-customize/ inco
<13> http://digital-users.net/phpsysinfo can anyone tell me why it says "'/proc/net/dev' not readable" and how i can fix it ?
<8> appreciate the info, didn't mean to upset anyone.
<11> thanks znx
<12> if thats not good enough then look for a knoppix one..
<12> its the same method..
<11> hmm i like knoppix better anyway
<12> @)
<12> digital-u: does it exist?



<12> and can you check the perms on the file
<13> well, http://eu.littlewhitey.com/phpsysinfo/ works and its the same core and same os so i think so :/ im not sure
<12> ls -l /proc/net/dev
<13> ok
<13> thanks
<13> one second
<13> [adam@a-dam ~]$ ls -l /proc/net/dev
<13> -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jan 9 23:24 /proc/net/dev
<12> readable by world
<12> so its not telling the truth
<12> it must be a serverside issue
<12> possibly safemode left on?@
<13> how can i check? I got it installed as a dedicated server, its in another country :p
<12> grep safe php.ini ...:)
<13> thanks
<13> [adam@a-dam ~]$ grep safe php.ini
<13> grep: php.ini: No such file or directory
<14> how was your film :)
<12> safe_mode = Off is what you want to see
<12> enigma: shaolin soccer .. ACE
<14> :o
<12> although my flatmate knocked my crown.. and now its hurting like hell
<4> you want some cheese with that wine?
<14> :/
<4> ;P
<13> ok znx ta
<12> digital-u: is it on?
<13> [root@a-dam ~]# grep safe php.ini
<13> grep: php.ini: No such file or directory
<13> thats all it says
<12> heh
<12> locate php.ini
<13> ahh yes it is off
<12> its off.. hrmm.. so its not that then :(
<13> :/
<12> is the server chrooted?
<14> Total time idled: 63 days, 00:38:57 :D
<13> chrooted ? :/
<12> yeah its like a system inside a system.. did you set this up?
<13> nope dedicated server was preinstalled and he did give me any setup options
<12> could be selinux or grsec too i guess..
<13> no idea what your on about :(
<12> security methods to protect the system
<13> ah
<6> hint:mandatory access policies
<12> hint all you like.. i still dont understand you :(
<12> hehe
<12> sprechen sie deutsch ?
<6> ja n klar
<6> sie auch ?
<6> na*
<12> hehe
<12> nein ..
<6> francais ?
<12> pfft
<6> italaliano ?
<14> englais :D
<12> ich bin einen scot
<6> espanol ?
<6> scot ?
<6> schotte hehe
<6> ;-p
<12> heh
<6> ooops
<6> capital S
<6> ;-p
<15> could anyone remind me of the command to change fg and bg color in xterm?
<12> xterm -fg COL -bg COL :P
<12> or use xtermcontrol to alter a running xterm
<15> ;p nice one bruv
<13> [root@a-dam net]# su apache
<13> This account is currently not available.
<13> but my apache servers running as it ?
<16> digital-u, may i ask why you want to go to an apache user?


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