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<0> and the southwest sauce
<1> you know what is sad.
<1> I'm installing debian on a Virtual Server VM
<2> bah
<1> hehe
<2> rhel is god
<1> <--- building a ASP .Net interface for VS
<1> :|
<1> *sigh*
<1> .Net pays the bills I suppose.
<3> that was a waste of time
<0> you be quiet
<0> you can't even get your mail working
<3> thats what this room is for is it not????
<3> mabey there should be an elet room for ppl like you to go ti



<1> csearle: what was a waste of time?
<3> calling rogers
<3> they dont support evolution
<1> mutt 4 lyfe
<1> fetchmail & mutt 4 lyfe
<3> ?????
<1> command line applications
<3> are those other clients
<1> fetchmail will pull in all pop3 and imap...
<1> and then you can access the mail using mutt... which is an email client.
<1> it's all textbase, which you probably want gui.
<4> gui plz!11
<3> i can set up server ports
<1> ok...
<3> proly
<1> sparc: gui is ok.
<3> i like gui
<1> it's over rated.
<4> command line is overrated
<1> I'm all for pretty design tho
<1> sparc: depends.
<1> sparc: what do you use your computer for?
<1> if it's a server... command line is better
<4> irc, music, gaming
<1> then obviously gui
<4> yep
<1> cept... IRC rocks command line
<1> irssi 4 lyfe
<1> yet, I am on a windows box running MIRC saying all of this
<1> lol
<4> irssi is alright i guess, but im more of an mirc type of guy
<4> i dont use linux on my home machine
<4> i have one
<4> but i dont use it
<1> I use mine for php/perl/mysql/apache
<1> that's it
<4> i have a dedicated for that
<1> everything else is doze
<1> I have a dedicated server too.
<1> but this is for my development
<1> before I deploy to production.
<1> :]
<4> mm
<1> not to mention... FTP
<5> what would you guys say is more secure: ssh ftp or secure ftp?
<1> ssh ftp
<1> prolly
<5> yeah i thought that just cause im guessing ssh ftp encrypts all data
<5> not just login credentials
<5> but i wanted to make sure that was exactly right
<4> wait
<4> SFTP, or secure FTP, is a program that uses SSH to transfer files.
<4> ?
<5> secure ftp is ftp with ssl
<5> i dont know now im confused
<4> i dont see any difference between the two
<5> ssh ftp is tunneling over ssh
<4> by googling
<3> looks like im gunna have to ask someone on the fedora site for some help
<4> :<
<4> read this atomi



<4> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSH_file_transfer_protocol
<5> "A common misconception is that SFTP is simply FTP run over SSH (for which see FTP over SSH); in fact it is a new protocol designed from the ground up by the IETF SECSH working group"
<4> so then my guess would be sftp the new protocol would be better
<5> open ssh i would imagine then
<4> mind you i know jack **** about this :P
<4> i was just googling
<5> ok
<4> but
<4> i can tell you this
<4> a lot of more secure sites use ssl
<4> cause its probavbly regarded as most secure
<4> otherwise they wouldnt use it
<4> just going on gut feeling on that one though
<1> well... ssl, is secure for web, I don't know if you can transfer over web utilizing ssh
<1> possible I'm sure, but I don't know.
<4> i mean ftps though
<4> use ssl
<4> like its the standard
<4> also kind of confusing
<4> "The protocol itself does not provide authentication and security; it expects the underlying protocol to secure this."
<6> whoot
<6> Linux version 2.6.12-9-386 (buildd@rothera) (gcc version 3.4.5 20050809 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 3.4.4-6ubuntu8)) #1 Tue Oct 4 18:44:03 BST 2005
<6> got it up and running on vs 2005
<6> ok time for bed.
<7> i want to have my own name server
<7> anyone can point me to a good tutorial about it?
<8> what do you want your own nameserver for?
<7> for my work
<7> i provide IT services for small to medium size businesses
<8> to do what?
<7> so I want to host their sites
<8> so get a reseller account
<7> i can
<7> but i additionally i have to work on a project
<7> for a client
<7> in which I have to setup a DNS solution for them
<7> with their on name server
<9> Hello peoples.
<10> hi
<11> heya
<9> hey anyweb, znx
<11> I feel like I'm about to vomit everywhere.
<9> yikes
<9> vmware is just soooo cool
<11> thanks
<9> yikes
<9> I made vmware mad
<12> oh great
<12> znx is gone
<12> AGAIN
<13> heh
<12> heh
<12> I'm evil
<14> morning
<15> good morning
<16> hrmm
<16> ****y
<12> yup it's official
<12> znx now uses AOL
<16> i wish
<16> it might stay up longer
<16> :p
<16> WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
<16> kutz kill Sh4dowcat
<16> KUTZ!
<11> Znx :D.
<16> hello kutzooi :)
<11> ;)
<16> kutzooi: kill Sh4dowcat !
<17> is AOL going to start charging for Email or something?
<11> do you really want to know that?


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