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<0> ok that i did not try before
<1> you will probably need it ***igned to you
<2> http://81.179.119.87:8000/
<0> i called the college IT they said that is automaticlly done to the windows machines
<1> oh
<0> they know **** about linux there
<1> well use dhcp then?
<0> well i have an ip... but it likes to change. so i though the hostname would be better so i coudl just type it in isndead of the ip
<1> indeed.. but you need to have it ***igned too ..
<1> id expect ip and name to be ***igned?
<0> ?
<1> well like where i work..
<1> we provide ip's based on mac
<1> those ip's are inside our dns.. linked to names
<0> here they just give it to you as long as you are plugged in the network.
<1> so you get ip.. and no name?



<0> correct
<0> they said that the ip and names are given to the windows machines
<1> well then ***igning a name will not really help.. unless you also provide a method of resolving that name
<1> er
<1> no thats not true...
<0> whats nto true?
<0> ok on this windows box how can i see if i have a hostname
<1> open up a dos box..
<1> and do ipconfig /all
<0> this is my laptop pluged into their network. then next to me ik have 2 linux boxes and then i have 20 premade by the college boxes
<0> ok so the hostname is the name i gave the computer?
<1> exactly.. it means nothing to the network
<0> well i just pinged that name for this computer and it return the pings
<1> pinged from where/
<3> lies
<0> from the laptop to the laptop
<3> hostname can matter
<0> my windows machine
<3> if you're linked to a dns system
<1> Sh4dowcat: i know that..
<1> but he is saying that its "providing" the name
<0> thats what the college told me
<0> now this name i gave it (dell) to the laptop
<0> when i ping the (dell) given name then it returns the ping
<0> how is it doing that? I guess that is the question
<1> whats the name it has?
<0> 4June2000
<0> 6June2004
<1> er..
<1> under "Host Name" ..
<1> thats what you see?
<0> Host Name........ 6June2004
<0> only god knows how it got that name.
<0> i blame dell for now.
<3> :)
<1> hrmm
<1> nah itll be some weird *** win ****
<0> how can i imitate that wrid *** win **** to do it on the linux box?
<1> i forget ... wins ? i think it can do that
<1> thats on winxp
<1> not linux
<3> no
<3> WINS has nothing to do with XP
<3> WINS is server side windows
<1> yes
<1> i know that
<1> i meant with windows
<1> heh
<4> edit c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts
<5> wins = CRAP
<1> webany: that wouldnt help
<0> well i dont care about the windows machine. i just want to do the same thing to the linux box
<3> why?
<4> or just right click on my computer and choose properties, computer name
<0> so i can call it by the name not by the changing IP
<3> Scrlk: it doesn't work that way
<0> ok. Could you explain?
<3> Linux does NOT use the Windows networking system
<3> so you can't call it by name unless you setup your own dns system



<0> ... can i do that inside the college?
<3> no
<6> oh nice
<6> choopa has ipv6 again
<1> FluKex_: is back!
<6> irc.choopa.net
<1> wee
<1> heh
<3> not without natting yourself off
<1> Scrlk: the wins stuff basically allows the client to register name/ip ..
<1> i dont know if linux has a similar functionality
<3> znx: no he's not talking about wins
<3> he's talking about NetBIOS
<3> and RPC
<1> i thought wins handled it..?
<3> and workgroup computer names
<1> yeah
<3> this has NOTHING TO DO with wins
<1> heh
<5> this is one reason why windows ****s
<0> so there is no way for me to give linux box a hostname..
<0> inside this netowrk
<3> ok firstly
<3> let's get your term straight
<0> ok
<1> *terms
<3> terms*
<0> heh
<3> you have to give a linux box a hostname
<3> whether you like it or not
<0> ok
<3> that name however doesn't matter unless you happen to be linked to a bind dns system
<3> and a linux hostname is NOT THE SAME as a Windows Computer name
<3> you can name two linux boxes the same and they won't give a damn
<7> hey
<3> give two windows machines in the same workgroup the same name and they'll bitch at you to no end
<3> but if you have two linux boxes in a dns system with the same name
<3> THEN you have a BIG problem
<3> you can't give a linux box a "Computer Name" because it's not related to Linux Networking at all
<8> man i was in NYC all day yesterday i love it there
<3> it's MICROSOFT NETWORKING
<8> where else do you see 2 random asian people talking to a wall.. and then a guy playing a piano in a mcdonalds
<9> i women got hit by a train last nite while i was in the city
<0> so microsoft uses the computername as the hostname?
<9> the train blew it horn 3 times but she kept walking down the rail
<8> enigma: canidate for darwin award right there
<9> all the witnesses said either she was deaf or trying to kill herself
<0> Also how can i check to see if the college is using a Bind dns
<9> i got so waisted last nite lol
<9> my buddy was playing a bar
<0> ok
<10> http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kiss2jr.jpg
<7> lo johnny06
<10> that was last nite
<8> http://www.darwinawards.com/personal/personal2005-08.html
<0> ok Sh4dowcat how can i check to see if the dns server they have up is a bind dns?
<3> Scrlk: do yourself a favor
<3> forget what you're trying to do
<3> you're not gonna pull it off
<3> and that's the end of it
<9> Jy lol
<0> well if i can figure out what is happening i might be able to. the college will give me access to what i need as long as i know what i need to do
<8> http://www.darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin2005-09.html
<8> that is my favorite award this year
<5> yeah I saw that
<3> Scrlk: I doubt they'll let you edit dns entries
<3> and if they do I wouldn't even want to be at that college
<0> well its for the college itself they are getting paid for what i am doing
<10> http://www.spiketv.com/shows/events/ufc_nye/


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