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<0> might even get them cheaper
<1> well i just spent a lot of money on dope and oxy. i take what i call an opiate break, where i get all oped out about once every month or two. maybe my next break ill look into getting some pods
<0> yeah
<0> i take breaks from them too
<0> no addiction really, pre se
<0> per se
<1> me either
<1> i used to
<1> thats why i cut it down
<1> to once every month or two
<0> yeah now with PILLS i cant stop eating them
<0> ultram i'll pop 8-10 at once
<0> and sit down and enjoy the ride
<1> hell yeah
<1> glad someone else enjoys the tramadol
<1> everyone knocks it



<0> yeah!
<0> most people hate it
<1> im a big believed in tram
<1> believer*
<0> its awesome for the heroin zonk
<0> p*** outish times
<2> sacred
<1> i like it on its own. i do opiates because i work online, and it helps me focus and ****
<1> tramadol is the perfect drug for that
<0> yeah true
<1> a very soothing motivational high
<2> sacred
<0> i find poppy tea
<0> if i dont drink too many cups
<2> tramadol is almost like speed in that way.
<0> makes me much more productive online
<2> bow-viper:
<0> so is tea
<0> but so are all opiates
<2> nah
<2> not heroin
<0> if you take them in a certain order over time they make ya 'speedy'
<0> RX pills
<0> that is
<1> yeah definetly factz, i can never find it around here.. i just happened to get lucky that my dad had 2 bottles of 60x 50mgs for athritis and he doesnt really believe in taking pills
<1> so he just had them in a med. cabinent
<1> so i spent a good 2 months all ****ed up on tramadol
<2> if you knew me.
<2> youd never go w/ out
<0> I dont understand people who dont like taking pills =)
<1> was the most productive period of my life
<1> it was bad***
<2> ;(
<0> if it makes you feel good, what's the harm
<0> except addiction
<1> exactly
<1> but thats harm to yourself
<1> im sick of coming here and saying **** like that and getting preached to
<1> 1/2 of the time thats what happens
<0> and addiction is only frowned upon because some people can't FUNCTION and be addicts
<2> as long as its there.
<0> I can be an addict and FUNCTION because I set priorities
<0> and I still make $70k a year
<2> addiction isnt a problem
<2> over indulgence is.
<0> true
<2> being gone is.
<0> good point
<1> exactly chkn, its all about setting goals and priorities. and making sure you keep them in check
<2> but././.
<1> if youre happy with what you have then who is to tell you wtf to do
<0> there are drug users and drug abusers .. :)
<2> theres nothing wrong w/ matenience.
<0> i had a drug counselour tell me once :: Drug use is bound to happen, you got the taste you will fall back down and you will abuse drugs again .. But let me help you define abusing drugs ...
<2> maintaining a habit and getting nutted are two different things.
<0> He said that if you can take pills and still function, take care of family, take care of job, etc ..
<0> then that's a drug user and isn't a problem
<1> good
<2> unfortunatly, services dont take it into concideration.
<0> but a drug abuser are those who can't function, crackhead out, methhead out, and end up taxing society
<1> glad to hear some other people understand



<2> neither does the nanny state.
<2> LOL
<0> those are the ones i like to call newbs
<1> the people that dont understand that, are the people not capable of handling the drugs themselves, so they think no one is, and they preach against it
<1> can i get an amen?
<0> ya know every NYE i dont go out, cuz of all the amatuer drunks
<1> :D
<0> same principle for drugs
<0> haha
<0> AMEN
<1> hahah
<2> chiknpimp: your views are extreme and biased.
<0> can i get a witness?!
<2> ChkNpIMP: your views are extreme and biased.
<2> please remember that every addict is somebodys child.
<0> yeah?
<1> maybe they are, but who cares, if the way he sees **** gets him through life the way he wants to, who cares if it isnt the same way youd do it?
<2> and knowledge of drugs should never be hiden.
<1> he isnt pouring tea down your throat
<0> My philosophy is better living through chemistry.
<2> so ppl can make informed choices.
<0> per the likes of Terrence McKenna and others
<1> exactly factz
<0> I believe botony can make life more fun.
<2> unfortunatly...
<1> definetly
<2> there are addicts w/ habits who didnt know.
<2> they were starved of knowledge.
<1> mckenna was brilliant, he had some messed up theories that i dont think ive ever been high enough to agree with, but he has some great work
<1> some of his stuff is a little whacky though heheh
<2> and therefore now a "burden" on society.
<1> no more wacky then these dumb*** religons though
<0> well yeah heh
<1> so
<2> =)
<1> than*
<0> or wacky thank the politicos in washington, DC
<1> right
<0> *than
<2> ChkNpIMP: please bear that in mind.
<2> when talking to any addict you may come across.
<2> =)
<2> thank you.
<2> ive had friends whose first drug was heroin at age 14
<2> mad ****
<1> i had a funny experience once on tramadol one of the first few nights i used it. i had an amazing buzz going, best feeling of my life, i code PHP, a server side programming language, and i was in #php on efnet and i go "anyone here on ultram right now"
<2> theres 8 year olds smoking crack
<1> because i was so ****ed up, wondered if anyone ever experienced it
<1> and like 6 people
<1> said they were
<1> it was awesome
<1> instantly they all came out
<3> oh ffs.. first time since I got my licence I've run out of papers and I don't have a car..
<2> bow-viper: tramadol is the new df118
<3> I haven't walked to the milkbar in like 8months :/
<3> ach!
<2> DF118s used to be the working mans opiate.
<0> seefactz: I know what you mean and I propose that if those that turn into addicts and are a burden on society would also have a high likelyhood that if it wasn't drugs that got them that way, alcohol or something else would have.
<1> im not familiar with DF118, what was/is it?
<1> and is it still around?
<2> ChkNpIMP: your understanding is good. im just saying they are not bad people.
<2> =)
<0> oh not at all
<1> did anyone watch the show "decl***ified" on the history channel a few days ago?
<0> some of my best friends are addicts
<1> about john lennon and how he was being watched by the government
<0> and i treat them with the respect they deserve
<1> CIA and FBI had thousands of pages of records on him
<2> =)
<1> what a piece of **** place we live in
<1> where a man of peace
<0> FBI has tons of work on me. :)
<1> is treated like an animal
<0> i did a drug deal for some cocaine back in like 1992


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